# Pitting Amateur Barbarian **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 8, 2015, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554 "2015-07-08T08:05:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/141 "2015-07-16T02:16:43Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > What an asshat. My response at the time: You should have deleted your name from that quote and claimed that it was a cogent argument that agreed with your stance. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/142 "2015-07-16T02:48:32Z")
Hey Niterover, Belichick and Brady are cheaters and therefore I apply that label to all New Englanders. And there was pass interference on that play. You know the one I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/143 "2015-07-16T03:31:05Z")
**AB** tried to take away my Cuisinart! > **[Early inventions that were widespread, then obsolete in a generation](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=762147)** > > There’s a lot of room for interpretation when it comes to what counts as an invention, how many years counts as a generation and what obsoletion means, but as an example the video tape recorder became ubiquitous when I was a kid in the 80s and is now... Also, **jsgoddess** is SO famous, I’ve seen her naked. – Ukulele Ike, Shrewd Yankee Peddler ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/144 "2015-07-16T03:48:57Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Also, **jsgoddess** is SO famous, I’ve seen her naked. Hi, Mom! ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/145 "2015-07-16T05:40:19Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Also, **jsgoddess** is SO famous, I’ve seen her naked. Pics or it didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/146 "2015-07-16T07:27:06Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > What fun is that? It’s much cooler if you bolster your arguments by citing something formatted to look like an academic paper! Unfortunately, it’s somewhat less convincing when people notice that it’s a self-published paper parked on the website of your own vanity press. > > What’s really hilarious is the clumsy verbal sleight-of-hand he employs; he actually says, “This paper makes…” as if it’s the _paper_ making the arguments, not him. He can cite himself _and_ have some deniability if he gets caught! This is tantamount to setting up a sock puppet account and saying “I never said that other username wasn’t me.” > > **AB** has made it abundantly clear that he considers himself the world’s preeminent Heinlein expert, so it’s a bit disingenuous for him to insist that he _wasn’t_ making an argument from authority. After all, this is the guy who whines and complains that the Wikipedia editors won’t bow down to him. You forget that he has the world’s greatest Heinlein-fu, and was only prevented from taking his rightful place at the very zenith of Heinleinology by the jealous machinations of scoundrels and blackguards. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/147 "2015-07-16T07:44:20Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > **AB** tried to take away my Cuisinart! > > [Early inventions that were widespread, then obsolete in a generation - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=762147) **AB** certainly is fond of [boasting about his skills](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17153556&postcount=2) at mundane, low-tech tasks: > [@How many blades on your razor? (Answers from both men + women, please))](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-blades-on-your-razor-answers-from-both-men-women-please/682631/2): > > If you can’t get a good shave (smooth, comfortable, lasting) shave from a single-blade safety razor, the problem is likely that you never learned to shave properly. The only faint advantage 2-5 blade razors have is that they accommodate sloppy, amateurish technique a little better, at many, many times the cost. It’s like living on McD’s food because you never learned to boil water. I’m thinking of starting a laundry thread to see if he gets all snooty about his technique with a washboard. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/148 "2015-07-16T11:50:32Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > **AB** > I’m thinking of starting a laundry thread to see if he gets all snooty about his technique with a washboard. Washboard? Surely he just beats his clothes against rocks in the creek. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/149 "2015-07-16T11:53:41Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > **AB** certainly is fond of [boasting about his skills](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17153556&postcount=2) at mundane, low-tech tasks: > > I’m thinking of starting a laundry thread to see if he gets all snooty about his technique with a washboard. I think he would probably describe the wonders of his 30 year old Maytag, which he repairs himself. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/150 "2015-07-16T12:43:30Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Washboard? Surely he just beats his clothes against rocks in the creek. Rocks in a creek? Don’t you know there are people too poor to afford rocks in a creek. Sure I could tap into my $3 a week food budget and buy some rocks and a creek, but…oops, wrong pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/151 "2015-07-16T16:12:25Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Washboard? Surely he just beats his clothes against rocks in the creek. I’m sure he beats something in the creek. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/152 "2015-07-16T16:18:55Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Washboard? Surely he just beats his clothes against rocks in the creek. There is actually definitive evidence to prove beating your clothes against rocks in a creek is better than washboards and washing machines. I wrote a wiki article on it to back me up. Here, let me find a link… ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/153 "2015-07-16T16:26:57Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > There is actually definitive evidence to prove beating your clothes against rocks in a creek is better than washboards and washing machines. I wrote a wiki article on it to back me up. Here, let me find a link… I’m sorry, the editors of Wikipedia disappeared your article. Too much original research. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/154 "2015-07-16T16:36:11Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I’m sorry, the editors of Wikipedia disappeared your article. Too much original research. Damn those Wiki people. How can they not recognize such genius from THE most respected reesarcher in the field of making shit up about washing clothes? ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/155 "2015-07-16T16:42:17Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > Damn those Wiki people. How can they not recognize such genius from THE most respected reesarcher in the field of making shit up about washing clothes? Post your brilliant, definitve, ground-breaking report under a fake name, and fill it with cites that you made up and posted on your own web site under your real name. No one will ever catch on. You’ll be as famous as **jsgoddess**! ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/156 "2015-07-16T16:49:02Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Post your brilliant, definitve, ground-breaking report under a fake name, and fill it with cites that you made up and posted on your own web site under your real name. No one will ever catch on. You’ll be as famous as **jsgoddess**! Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/157 "2015-07-16T17:06:54Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Post your brilliant, definitve, ground-breaking report under a fake name, and fill it with cites that you made up and posted on your own web site under your real name. No one will ever catch on. You’ll be as famous as **jsgoddess**! NEVER! Not that I’m claiming to be famous or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/158 "2015-07-16T17:40:07Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > NEVER! Not that I’m claiming to be famous or anything. If you were famous at all, you’d find your real name [cited in five or six threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=711619). You would grin. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/159 "2015-07-16T17:47:01Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > If you were famous at all, you’d find your real name [cited in five or six threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=711619). You would grin. 😃 I just looked me up! I’m cited way more than that! Of course, it’s always me saying my name, but there’s a proud tradition of citing to ourselves on the dope. My name is my cite! ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554/160 "2015-07-16T18:15:28Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I just looked me up! I’m cited way more than that! > > Of course, it’s always me saying my name, but there’s a proud tradition of citing to ourselves on the dope. My name is my cite! According to **FuriousGeorge** [in this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18522829&postcount=160), this should never be a thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-amateur-barbarian/724554.md?page=9)