# Pitting Black Women for Trying to Look White

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 2, 2003, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474 "2003-12-02T08:44:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/1 "2003-12-02T08:44:07Z")

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I am so sick of most black women selling out their race by trying to look white. What do I mean you ask? Look at most black women’s hair in America. They do their best to try to make it look straight and soft, like a white woman’s hair. Well, that is not the way God/Nature made black women’s hair. We are never going to get over the white standard of beauty in America if blacks continue to try to look white. So ladies, you have thick, curly hair – deal with it. Stop trying to look white.

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**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/2 "2003-12-02T08:46:05Z")

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Could a mod fix the title to read “Pitting Black Women for Trying to Look White”.

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**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/3 "2003-12-02T08:46:45Z")

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I don’t think black women have an obligation to look like anything except what they WANT to look like. They aren’t repersentatives of thier race, they are people.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/4 "2003-12-02T08:47:21Z")

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Unless you’re a black woman yourself, what’s it to you? I think women of all colours and nationality will continue to do fine without your fashion advice, to be honest.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/5 "2003-12-02T08:50:21Z")

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Be open minded and stop this hate fest!

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/6 "2003-12-02T08:52:08Z")

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God knows white women never curled their hair. Or dye it.

In fact only black women are the only women in the world I know that change their natural hair. Damn them for sell outs.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/7 "2003-12-02T08:52:16Z")

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I wonder: how does the OP think about white women with perms? Are they trying to look “black”?

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**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/8 "2003-12-02T08:52:47Z")

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> Unless you’re a black woman yourself, what’s it to you?

The reason I care is that black children (and adults) continue to feel inferior because there is a white standard of beauty in America. Do I have to be black to care about blacks? I am sorry for you if you feel only blacks can care about issues that primarily involve blacks.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/9 "2003-12-02T08:53:16Z")

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Dammit, **Darkhold**. I can have you banned for that, you know.  
[sub]Well, OK, not really.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/10 "2003-12-02T08:53:55Z")

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**Coldfire**  
heh beat you too it.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/11 "2003-12-02T08:54:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hydrocortisone \*  
> \*\*I am sorry for you if you feel only blacks can care about issues that primarily involve blacks. \*\*

In which hole would you like me to plug that fucking strawman?

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**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/12 "2003-12-02T08:57:00Z")

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So you saying:

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> Unless you’re a black woman yourself, what’s it to you?

meant what exactly, if not to say if you are not black (and a woman) this shouldn’t be an issue to you?

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/13 "2003-12-02T09:11:54Z")

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What it means, my cerebrally challenged friend, is that you’re reading motives into black women’s hair grooming habits that just might not be there.

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/14 "2003-12-02T09:14:42Z")

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Hey **Coldfire** mind if I take that as a new sig line?

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**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/15 "2003-12-02T09:17:54Z")

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How about instead of worrying what womens hair is like, you leave it to them to play with however they see fit?

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/16 "2003-12-02T09:21:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Darkhold \*  
> \*\*Hey Coldfire mind if I take that as a new sig line? \*\*

Which one? The “I can have you banned for that” one, or the hair grooming habits one?

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/17 "2003-12-02T09:23:14Z")

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The second one. Though now that you mention it it would be funny to carry the first around.

Can I have one now and the other for Xmas?

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/18 "2003-12-02T09:24:28Z")

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Sure, be my guest.

Now, where’s our cute little dumbass friend?

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**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/19 "2003-12-02T10:28:54Z")

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> Now, where’s our cute little dumbass friend?

Right here, bitch.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2003, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-black-women-for-trying-to-look-white/216474/20 "2003-12-02T10:52:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hydrocortisone \*  
> \*\*Right here, bitch. \*\*

Man, Coldfire ain’t nobody’s bitch, yo!

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