# Pitting Brett Favre **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083 "2004-01-12T01:03:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![emulsified](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emulsified/32/2915_2.png) [@emulsified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emulsified)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/41 "2004-01-12T13:50:55Z")
Right before the pass, I said a little prayer, “Please, God, let Golden Brett throw an interception now, please?” And lo and behold… So you can thank me, or God I guess. Also, it was fun watching the boneheads trying to call for a second timeout in a row resulting in them all milling around during the game winning play rather than attempting a block. Now that’s what I call destiny. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/42 "2004-01-12T14:02:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*I’m as surprised as anybody that it actually came down to who played a better football game. \*\* Philly certainly has nothing to be proud of from that game. It was ugly football, all around, and they just played less crappy than the Pack. In any case, neither of these teams (PHI or CAR) wil be able to hang with NE or Indy. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/43 "2004-01-12T14:04:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rysdad \* > \*\*Not really. The QB made a helluva pass, the receiver made a great catch, and the refs made a questionable call. > > At least Dante didn’t pitch a rainbow to the other team. (Not that he couldn’t–or hasn’t.) > > No, it was the Green Bile Pukers, and specifically Farv, that performed the ultimate choke job. > > Never would’ve expected him to do that. \*\* Sorry, as an NFL fan that is neutral to the whole NFC rivalries, it seems to me that the Vikes choked wayyyy worse to close out the season than the Pack did yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/44 "2004-01-12T14:49:43Z")
I think that one was intended for his Dad. Dad, go high! ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/45 "2004-01-12T14:55:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by furt \* > \*\*Dude, they lost to friggin’ Arizona. \*\* [Ahem.](http://www.packers.com/gameday/2003/09-21/) ---
**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/46 "2004-01-12T15:48:18Z")
_Sigh_ poor Pack. It was the 4th and 26th that killed them, but wtf was up with that lame duck pass attempt…oh well, at least he’s coming back next season. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/47 "2004-01-12T22:43:29Z")
> [@mouthbreather](#): > > Philly certainly has nothing to be proud of from that game. It was ugly football, all around, and they just played less crappy than the Pack. > > In any case, neither of these teams (PHI or CAR) wil be able to hang with NE or Indy. Heh, I said it came down to who played a _better_ game, not who played a _good_ game. There’s a difference. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/48 "2004-01-12T22:52:20Z")
> [@mouthbreather](#): > > Philly certainly has nothing to be proud of from that game. It was ugly football, all around, and they just played less crappy than the Pack. > > In any case, neither of these teams (PHI or CAR) wil be able to hang with NE or Indy. Nothing to be proud of? Their QB threw for almost 250 yards with 2 TDs and ran for 100 additional yards. Which, by the way, was an NFL record. Philly should be - and is - very, very proud of how well McNabb played. He played to the best of his ability _and_ inspired his teammates to do the same. How else to explain Freddie Mitchell’s catch? Pinkston’s TD catch? ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2004, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/49 "2004-01-12T23:29:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Normally I would have been rooting for Green Bay in this game, but today I wasn’t because I wanted to see an end to all that team-of-destiny, divine-intervention, dad-is-watching-from-above horse shit. As if losing a parent buys you a free ride to the superbowl. How the hell is that supposed to work anyway? Why didn’t god or dad guide that no-hope pass into the receiver’s hands? Thank G-d, I was really getting sick of all the mush mouth sentimentality. Football is football, kick, grunt, slam, y’know. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/50 "2004-01-13T02:06:39Z")
I promised Pack fans this morning that I’d give them a little time to heal… but I feel it’s been long enough 😃 Truly one of the happiest days of my dreary, sucky football season yesterday, and watching your hero, your ‘stand up guy’, your ‘role model’, your ‘angel’ Brett Favre REFUSE TO SPEAK AT THE POST GAME PRESS CONFERENCE just sealed the deal. Can’t own up to your mistakes, eh my boy? Life must be rough when no one’s sucking your cock. ---
**Author:** ![A\_wizard\_song\_for\_thee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@A\_wizard\_song\_for\_thee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_wizard_song_for_thee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/51 "2004-01-13T04:49:34Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > That’s the past **two** years, you knuckle-dragger! We’ve only choked _twice_! In my defense, I was counting this year. And you mean that you’ve only choked twice _so far_. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/52 "2004-01-13T14:41:52Z")
> [@A wizard song for thee](#): > > In my defense, I was counting this year. And you mean that you’ve only choked twice _so far_. Cmon… the Panthers? Cmonnnnnnnn! Already beat them once. They don’t scare me. Okay, they scare me a little, but not as much as St. Louis or Green Bay. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/53 "2004-01-13T19:56:59Z")
Workman standing by broken water main to Favre: _“I think I’d have looked before I threw the ball.”_ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/54 "2004-01-13T19:59:34Z")
I’d have read the coverage and looked for the receiver first. But that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/55 "2004-01-13T22:37:31Z")
He didn’t have time to read the coverage, he was getting chased and he just wheeled and threw without looking. Mike Sherman said that Favre thought that his receiver was going to adjust to the blitz by breaking to the post so that’s where he threw. Walker stayed home on the pattern and it was like a punt return for the Eagles. It sounds like an attempt to subtly blame Walker for the interception without really blaming him. He ran the right pattern he just didn’t break to the post after seeing the blitz. I don’t really buy it, though. The bottom line is you don’t just lob the ball up like that without looking. Favre was reckless, as he is wont to be, and it bit him in the ass. He should have just thrown it out of bounds or even taken the sack. It was only first down and the clock is not an issue in OT. A sack would have put GB in second and long but Favre gets out of those holes all the time. Even if the Pack had been forced to punt, that still would have been better than giving up a pick and an open field return. Favre made the worst decision possible. I know he’s a first ballot HoFer but he can still be spectacularly undisciplined at times. It makes him fun to watch, though. ---
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/56 "2004-01-14T04:43:49Z")
It really isn’t Favre’s fault. He threw the ball where he was supposed to. The angel ran the wrong route. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/57 "2004-01-14T06:07:28Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > Nothing to be proud of? Their QB threw for almost 250 yards with 2 TDs and ran for 100 additional yards. Which, by the way, was an NFL record. Record for the playoffs…I remember Vick running for 174 in the regular season last year. Less than 250 yards passing isn’t exactly lighting it up. At least Pinkston posted respectable WR numbers; one of the precious few games all year a Philly WR has done that. 2 for 37 is not what you want out of your WRs. Next week will be interesting. I hope for Carolina, but it could go either way. I think it will come down to a question of McFlabb’s confidence; does he believe he can throw a pass to a WR, who is defended by a CB, or will he continue to be a gutless wonder and dump off every pass to a RB matched up against safeties and linebackers. Or even worse, have no confidence in his arm (head) at all and pull the ball down and run. I have zero respect for the Eagles as a team. Then again, my Giants were guilty of all of those complaints, and instead of being in the NFC Championship game, we have the #4 overall pick. So sad. ---
**Author:** ![Boo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Boo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/58 "2004-01-14T15:29:35Z")
“I would have thrown it out of bounds” or “I would have taken the sack” ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/59 "2004-01-14T15:41:36Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > Record for the playoffs…I remember Vick running for 174 in the regular season last year. Less than 250 yards passing isn’t exactly lighting it up. At least Pinkston posted respectable WR numbers; one of the precious few games all year a Philly WR has done that. 2 for 37 is not what you want out of your WRs. The reason the numbers are down is that so many different players get receptions each week. I’m sure you understand that, but your post makes it seem like the WRs are awful, which is simply not the case. > [@](#): > > Next week will be interesting. I hope for Carolina, but it could go either way. I think it will come down to a question of McFlabb’s confidence; does he believe he can throw a pass to a WR, who is defended by a CB, or will he continue to be a gutless wonder and dump off every pass to a RB matched up against safeties and linebackers. Or even worse, have no confidence in his arm (head) at all and pull the ball down and run. Huh? If there’s a problem with his confidence, I haven’t seen it this year. You do realize they’re 13-4, right? You don’t win 13 games with a QB lacking confidence. McNabb has poise and can read defenses pretty well, although he certainly takes too many sacks. Still, to suggest he’s a “gutless wonder” is ludicrous at best. > [@](#): > > I have zero respect for the Eagles as a team. Then again, my Giants were guilty of all of those complaints, and instead of being in the NFC Championship game, we have the #4 overall pick. So sad. Sad is not having respect for a team that’s 13-4 and playing in the NFC Championship Game. That’s a puzzler. I mean, I can understand not being a fan of a team, but how could you not have respect for a successful team, at least on some level? ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Train\_Song](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@Black\_Train\_Song](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Black_Train_Song)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083/60 "2004-01-15T02:40:42Z")
Remember, the Eagles are the NEW team of destiny and if you’re not on their side then you’re not on Gods side. How can you have no respect for such a consistant team? I don’t get it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-brett-favre/224083.md?page=4)