# Pitting Honeybadger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183 "2018-03-07T15:40:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/281 "2023-06-08T21:11:20Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I do think there is a difference between someone who puts on a persona for professional reasons and causes controversy as a form of entertainment, and someone who does it solely for their own benefit.

So where would you put Rush Limbaugh? He was a professional shit-stirrer of the highest magnitude, which also made him a ton of money.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/282 "2023-06-08T21:22:37Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> So where would you put Rush Limbaugh?

He’s in that category too.

I’m not saying professional trolls are always helpful or good. It varies from case to case. It’s just like comedians that push the envelope… If you say things that shock people, maybe you’re saying something important that people need to hear, or maybe you’re a bigot spreading hate. Details matter.

But Rush was still different than a weirdo lurking on a forum, saying things to rile people up on purpose without any clear gain except a compulsion or sick glee. He did it for fame and money, and it worked.

I’m sure he did more harm than the top hundred worst online trolls combined, but it’s still a different category.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/283 "2023-06-08T21:39:23Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > So where would you put Rush Limbaugh?
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> He’s in that category too.

Which category?

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> someone who puts on a persona for professional reasons and causes controversy as a form of entertainment

or

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> someone who does it solely for their own benefit

You said there was a difference, but ISTM Rush was both.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/284 "2023-06-08T21:49:48Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> You said there was a difference, but ISTM Rush was both.

I disagree. I don’t think Rush would be the kind to do his schtick if he wasn’t being paid.

Recall that he was a failed radio DJ who didn’t find success until he was able to set himself up as the voice of the right wing, and even that could only happen after the FCC loosened their rules on political commentary over broadcasts in 1987.

I do think many of his political beliefs were sincere, but he wasn’t the kind of guy who’d be wasting his time if it wasn’t filling his bank account and making him famous.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/285 "2023-06-08T21:51:19Z")

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And how many of the internet trolls believe that if they earn enough internet points, they will get to be the next Rush?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/286 "2023-06-08T21:54:52Z")

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Probably close to zero. A person who wants to be the next Rush isn’t going to post anonymously in some random place anymore than someone who wants to be the next Mariah Carey only sings in the shower.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/287 "2023-06-08T22:00:32Z")

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I didn’t say that they would be successful.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/288 "2023-06-08T22:02:37Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I don’t think Rush would be the kind to do his schtick if he wasn’t being paid.

You’re probably right about that.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/289 "2023-06-08T22:03:49Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Probably close to zero. A person who wants to be the next Rush isn’t going to post anonymously in some random place anymore than someone who wants to be the next Mariah Carey only sings in the shower. ⁢

No, but they might very well practice and hone their craft in front of a smaller audience.

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I disagree with your division here. The difference isn’t doing it for professional reasons vs. doing it for their own reasons. It’s doing it to entertain others vs, doing it to deceive them.

I would put Rush in the second category, even if he did do it entirely for money. In his act, at least, Andy Kaufman did it for entertainment purposes.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/290 "2023-07-16T18:23:13Z")

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Holy fuckballs, he’s made an absolute, utter, and unforgivable jerk of himself in the current “Danger Will Robinson” thread about Texas Syphilis explosion. Illegals are apparently all disease vectors and sex workers. OMFG.

I was debating throwing a note in this thread earlier for his absolute fucking smug blindness in the Pit thread about Global Warming excuses for Republicans, but it’s in the pit anyway, although those trying to reason with him are IMHO smashing their faces into a wall of bland entitled smugness as well.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/291 "2023-07-16T18:53:05Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Texas Syphilis explosion

band name

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/292 "2023-07-16T19:59:44Z")

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But not a good one.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/293 "2023-07-17T00:43:47Z")

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Reminds me of an old high school buddy who came up with the band name “Sloppy Condoms”.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/294 "2023-07-17T02:18:44Z")

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I could see it as a side project for some of the Butthole Surfers.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/295 "2023-07-17T19:03:26Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Holy fuckballs, he’s made an absolute, utter, and unforgivable jerk of himself in the current “Danger Will Robinson” thread about Texas Syphilis explosion. Illegals are apparently all disease vectors and sex workers. OMFG.
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> I was debating throwing a note in this thread earlier for his absolute fucking smug blindness in the Pit thread about Global Warming excuses for Republicans, but it’s in the pit anyway, although those trying to reason with him are IMHO smashing their faces into a wall of bland entitled smugness as well.

Did he ever figure out why all his completely straight and totally not gay friends are always having sex with each other? Was it feminists or pronouns?

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/296 "2023-07-17T20:58:26Z")

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I have no idea, and will likely never find out as after that report I put them on ignore. HB is free to find out by fucking themselves, which should give them a new data point at least.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/297 "2023-07-17T21:06:26Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Did he ever figure out…

I think I missed that thread! Sounds interesting, in a driving-by-a-car-accident way.

He also complained that this board is too political, but really he’s just too dumb.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/298 "2023-07-17T21:24:41Z")

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If you want to check it out, here it is!

> [@Question about gay lifestyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-gay-lifestyle/973633):
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> Over the years I have known several people who weren’t really gay but they were unable to attract a mate of the opposite sex and eventually hooked up with their very close friends of the same sex. They watch straight porn and enjoy looking at beautiful women. Most of them that I have known stay in their relationships for very long times usually lifetimes. Years ago pronouns weren’t really discussed so it never came up but now the same couples identify usually as gay. But are they really gay? I n…

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/299 "2023-07-17T21:39:18Z")

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FFS, what a dumbass. I could have gone the rest of my life without reading that and been the happier for it.

Also, I’m a little disappointed. The appropriate response would be, as the kids (used to?) say, “cool story, bro”

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/300 "2023-07-17T22:11:02Z")

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Oh my gosh! What a maroon. And, the “gay is a pronoun” is really bizarre.

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