# Pitting Honeybadger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183 "2018-03-07T15:40:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/301 "2023-07-18T18:18:05Z")

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That’s very similar to **Crane** ’s recollection of the 1950s. Maybe _too_ similar for something straight out of left field… coincidence?

> [@In the 1950s, was male on male sex regarded as something horny guys did when they couldn't get dates?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-1950s-was-male-on-male-sex-regarded-as-something-horny-guys-did-when-they-couldnt-get-dates/962414/1):
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> Continuing the discussion from Why was this useage of “queer” offensive?:
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> > **Crane** wrote:  
> > It is my recollection that in the 1950s male/male sex was just regarded as something horney guys did when they couldn’t get dates. It wasn’t condoned but It did not imply that they were exclusive or different.
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> Older dopers, is this for real?
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> ETA: What about you know, McCarthyism?

~Max

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/302 "2023-07-27T03:15:34Z")

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He’s trolling the shit out of the Hunter Biden thread now.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/303 "2023-07-27T04:26:25Z")

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I’m surprised he didn’t say he would present the evidence “in two weeks”.

It’s magnificent how the thread got derailed

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/304 "2023-07-27T04:53:28Z")

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He’s been modded in that thread so he can’t stink it up anymore.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/305 "2023-07-27T05:13:34Z")

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Yeah, I usually like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that was straight up trolling,

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/306 "2023-07-27T12:34:53Z")

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No, he’s just badly misinformed. He’s living in the right-wing mediasphere and those folks really believe those things.

I think my favorite line, though, was that if the shoe were on the other foot (some Republican was in hot water), conservatives would want to make sure the facts came out. Maybe that line was trolling. (Post number 435 in that thread)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/307 "2023-07-27T12:41:07Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He’s trolling the shit out of the Hunter Biden thread now.

HB makes the “Biden Crime Family” sound like the new 9/11 “Truth”: knows there’s evidence but can’t say exactly what it is and tells us to wait for said evidence to come out.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/308 "2023-07-27T13:04:19Z")

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I thought it was the “Clinton crime family” we were all supposed to be worried about. Say, has anyone seen Hillary lately? Can we really be certain that Hillary isn’t actually the one pulling the strings on Biden, maybe even literally inside his head and living through him _Being John Malkovich_-style?

I’m not saying we have all the facts, it just seems like when we do it will probably point that way, is all.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/309 "2023-07-27T13:26:08Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Can we really be certain that Hillary isn’t actually the one pulling the strings on Biden, maybe even literally inside his head and living through him _Being John Malkovich_-style?

No no, it’s clear that it was Biden manipulating the Clintons all along! Such subtlety! Like the mice secretly running the Earth for 10 million years to calculate the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/310 "2023-07-27T13:41:27Z")

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No, no, no. The truth is that Jimmy Carter is the real Democratic criminal mastermind. The whole pious thing is just a front.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/311 "2023-07-27T13:53:52Z")

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Yes, yes, eating children in satanic rituals would explain why he’s still alive…

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/312 "2023-07-27T13:57:22Z")

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I love it!

When a Republican has a long life, it’s a reward from God for a life well served. When a Democrat has a long life, it’s proof of a Satanic pact

When a hurricane hits an urban area or an area with lots of liberals, it’s a judgment from God. When it hits podunk MAGAville, it’s a test of faith and resilience.

It all hangs together so nicely!

They’re really reaching, though. There’s no more Hillary to use as a punching bag and it’s not easy creating a new boogeyman.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/313 "2023-07-27T14:49:15Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> No, he’s just badly misinformed. He’s living in the right-wing mediasphere and those folks really believe those things.

I don’t think it’s as simple as that. He’s being deliberately provocative by hijacking a thread with the same claims he’s made before, intentionally to rile people up. He never backs up anything he says, and what he says is completely contradictory.

He’s not living in the right wing media sphere because he’s **here**. There are threads documenting what Trump has done, his indictments, threads about Fox News admitting to lies, and yet he insists that Biden is the one who’s some massive criminal and the worst president in recent years.

There is no excuse for that. If he truly believed what he was saying, he wouldn’t be here. I am convinced he’s just stirring up shit for his own amusement. He’s not a poor lost soul, he’s a wannabe agent provocateur.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/314 "2023-07-27T15:00:56Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> He’s being deliberately provocative by hijacking a thread with the same claims he’s made before, intentionally to rile people up. He never backs up anything he says, and what he says is completely contradictory.

Well, it looks like you’re right, since he just got a warning and thread ban. Too bad – I liked **iiandyiiii** ’s challenge to come back on August 5 when his sources says all will have been revealed.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/315 "2023-07-27T15:04:48Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Well, it looks like you’re right, since he just got a warning and thread ban. Too bad – I liked **iiandyiiii** ’s challenge to come back on August 5 when his sources says all will have been revealed.

I think that was my challenge–but it was also my post report, since he’s showing no signs of upping his cite game.

P&E threads are at their best, IMO, when they’re full of cogent analysis backed by substantial cites. I learn a lot from threads when they’re like that; they can be more informative than the WaPo when they’re at their best. But posts like HB’s nonsense just increase the noise-to-signal beyond what’s tolerable.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/316 "2023-07-27T15:07:07Z")

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Whatever happened to that backyard hobbyist tinkerer who was always looking for ways to get an extra half a percent range increase out of arrows? That guy was a lot of fun, and knew the value of critical thinking.

I liked him a lot better than this new guy.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/317 "2023-07-27T15:21:39Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> He’s been modded in that thread so he can’t stink it up anymore.

We really should have seen a “Your posting priveleges are now under discussion in the modloop” addendum after shite like that.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/318 "2023-07-27T15:35:06Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> There is no excuse for that. If he truly believed what he was saying, he wouldn’t be here. I am convinced he’s just stirring up shit for his own amusement. He’s not a poor lost soul, he’s a wannabe agent provocateur.

Fancy words for “He’s a fucking troll”

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/319 "2023-07-27T15:39:28Z")

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I personally think the racist shit they spewed recently that I mentioned upthread was worse (I have them on ignore, but saw the Biden crap when I was on my not signed in Fire Tablet last night) - and it got by on a technicality as not being 100% incorrect with yet another note.

For any mods reading this thread, I suggest that someone with a bit of spare time (and I know you guys have lives, so I’m not going to scream and shout) look at the sheer volume of racist, bigoted, and homophobic crap this poster has produced over the last few years and see _just_ how many of these “we’re giving you a note” he’s skated by on.

I saw (prior to the last one where he got the fuck-you ignore from me) very clear tendencies, that should earn him at least a serious consideration as Troublesome Poster ban and zero evidence they’re getting better.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/320 "2023-07-27T16:26:01Z")

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Not yet, but I believe he has put himself on the radar for most of the mods now. If he makes ranting, citeless posts in P&E or GD please flag them. It will allow us to stop the hijacking and hopefully change his posting style.

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