# Pitting Honeybadger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183 "2018-03-07T15:40:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/321 "2023-07-27T16:27:56Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I think that was my challenge

Sorry about the confusion on my part! Or, maybe I was just protecting you when all the evidence comes out next week and shows you for the gullible sap that you are?

For some reason, I often get your posts and **iiandyiiii** ’s posts confused. Maybe because they’re usually patient, cogent posts, not matter how terrible the poster you’re addressing is?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/322 "2023-07-27T16:34:55Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> For some reason, I often get your posts and **iiandyiiii** ’s posts confused. Maybe because they’re usually patient, cogent posts, not matter how terrible the poster you’re addressing is?

Aw, shucks! There’s no higher compliment than getting confused with @iiandyiiii. FWIW your posts are pretty rockin too.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/323 "2023-07-27T16:35:07Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> For some reason, I often get your posts and **iiandyiiii** ’s posts confused. Maybe because they’re usually patient, cogent posts, not matter how terrible the poster you’re addressing is?

That’s eerie, it’s the same for me. They’re practically the same poster to me.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/324 "2023-07-27T16:36:42Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> That’s eerie, it’s the same for me. They’re practically the same poster to me.

I feel like I’m a lot crankier than he is.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/325 "2023-07-27T16:36:59Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> FWIW your posts are pretty rockin too.

Thanks!

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I feel like I’m a lot crankier than he is.

I can see that.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/326 "2023-07-27T16:39:07Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Sorry about the confusion on my part! Or, maybe I was just protecting you when all the evidence comes out next week and shows you for the gullible sap that you are?
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> For some reason, I often get your posts and **iiandyiiii** ’s posts confused. Maybe because they’re usually patient, cogent posts, not matter how terrible the poster you’re addressing is?

Weird, I don’t get that at all. Politically they’re coming from the same place but posting styles seem pretty different to me.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I feel like I’m a lot crankier than he is.

I wasn’t going to say it, but yes. You’re more likely to get frustrated (like me) than **iiandyiiii**.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/327 "2023-07-27T16:43:08Z")

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Thanks to all for the kind words! I am a fan of all of you as well.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/328 "2023-07-27T16:44:08Z")

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This is NOT your father’s BBQ Pit.

😉

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/329 "2023-07-27T16:44:19Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> > [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> > That’s eerie, it’s the same for me. They’re practically the same poster to me.
> 
> I feel like I’m a lot crankier than he is.

FWIW, your username made me aware of the novel it’s a pun on and Ursula K. Le Guin in general and now I’m a fan. So I value you as an individual. 😉

And I like cranky people if the crankiness is justified.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/330 "2023-07-27T16:55:19Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I don’t think it’s as simple as that. He’s being deliberately provocative by hijacking a thread with the same claims he’s made before, intentionally to rile people up. He never backs up anything he says, and what he says is completely contradictory.

I think it’s just as simple as he said, he’s been watching nothing but Fox News for weeks. He has a certain but vague idea of all the hundreds of travesties attributable to Biden, but no hard facts because Fox News glosses over all the specifics. But he’s thoroughly 100% convinced because he’s been brainwashed. This is the same exact thing that happened to my relative - went from liberal to MAGA in several months after marrying a Fox News devotee who watches all day long.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/331 "2023-07-27T17:42:07Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> hopefully change his posting style

Is “nonexistent” technically a style?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/332 "2023-07-27T17:50:21Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> He has a certain but vague idea of all the hundreds of travesties attributable to Biden, but no hard facts because Fox News glosses over all the specifics. But he’s thoroughly 100% convinced because he’s been brainwashed.

Bingo! I have relatives that watch it all the time (you stop by their house and you have a 100% chance of seeing it unless there is a football game on…their TVs are ALWAYS on) and this is them. I’ve watched some of their shit shows and it is all insinuation and “just asking questions”. It’s complete bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/333 "2023-07-27T18:04:09Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Whatever happened to that backyard hobbyist tinkerer who was always looking for ways to get an extra half a percent range increase out of arrows? That guy was a lot of fun, and knew the value of critical thinking.
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> I liked him a lot better than this new guy.

I remember that guy. His obsession with archery (I think it was the subject of all of his threads) was tiresome but harmless.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/334 "2023-07-27T18:25:33Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> FWIW, your username made me aware of the novel it’s a pun on and Ursula K. Le Guin in general and now I’m a fan. So I value you as an individual. 😉
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> And I like cranky people if the crankiness is justified.

Yay on the Le Guin thing, and I’m very lucky that some people appreciate crankiness. (I think I’m a lot less cranky in person, in part because I vent my crank on online cranks).

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/335 "2023-07-27T18:49:50Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Bingo! I have relatives that watch it all the time (you stop by their house and you have a 100% chance of seeing it unless there is a football game on…their TVs are ALWAYS on) and this is them. I’ve watched some of their shit shows and it is all insinuation and “just asking questions”. It’s complete bullshit.

Likewise with 2 close relatives in my life (live in another state). You’d think they’d get sick of it after awhile (myself I can only handle political news in c. 5 min. chunks), and put on either a nature documentary or some NCIS reruns or something.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/336 "2023-07-27T18:54:45Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> This is the same exact thing that happened to my relative - went from liberal to MAGA in several months after marrying a Fox News devotee who watches all day long.

If I had to choose between marrying a Fox News devotee or a smoker, I’d choose the monastery.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/337 "2023-07-27T19:23:51Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Bingo! I have relatives that watch it all the time (you stop by their house and you have a 100% chance of seeing it unless there is a football game on…their TVs are ALWAYS on) and this is them.

Y’know, come to think of it, this explains a lot. If the TV is always on, you’re not actually paying much attention to it, just catching snippets here and there. And if those snippets include vague references to “the mounting evidence”, or the like, then it would be easy for a person to say to themself “Huh, I guess I just wasn’t paying attention when they said what all of the evidence was”. But of course they weren’t paying attention to when they said that, because they never said it.

It’s like that old [online card trick](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKftNx535j0): You don’t see the card you picked from the first set, because you don’t see any of the cards from the first set.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/338 "2023-07-27T23:08:52Z")

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I have a couple of right wing talk stations saved on my radio. Not because I listen to those shows, but sometimes the stations will have a local sports broadcast I want to hear.

This morning as I was flipping through stations, I got to one of those stations and one guy (didn’t catch his name, I didn’t pay attention or care) was talking about how Joe Biden was cooked because there was evidence of his criminal activity. And he was crowing about how he was right all along, and he predicted it back in February. He then played a clip of himself back then.

At no point did he ever give a shred of evidence. He was just repeating today the same vague allegations he had said months ago. Somehow, in his world, you can use your own baseless claims from months ago as proof of something. Like, if I said this a long time ago, there you go, that’s my evidence.

It was insane. The general premise was that Joe Biden was trying to keep his son from being investigated for tax crimes because if they did, they’d find evidence that Joe was getting bribes from Ukraine, and that’s the only reason Joe supports Ukraine. Yes, in the right wing world, people need to have dirt on you before you care whether a ruthless neighbor invades a country without provocation.

It was insane. How can anyone fall for this tripe?!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/339 "2023-07-27T23:15:23Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It was insane. How can anyone fall for this tripe?! -

Some people think tripe is yummy.

> **[10 Best Tripe Recipes to Try for Dinner](https://insanelygoodrecipes.com/tripe-recipes/)**
>
> These simple tripe recipes are perfect to make for dinner. From soup to stew to braised dishes, you'll gain a new appreciation for tripe.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/340 "2023-07-27T23:16:34Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Some people think tripe is yummy.

My dad, for one, enjoys it. 🤢

He’s also pretty far on the right politically, so I guess that tracks.

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