# Pitting Honeybadger **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183 "2018-03-07T15:40:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/341 "2023-07-27T23:28:31Z")
Not if it’s half-baked. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/342 "2023-07-28T03:32:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > This morning as I was flipping through stations, I got to one of those stations and one guy (didn’t catch his name, I didn’t pay attention or care) was talking about how Joe Biden was cooked because there was evidence of his criminal activity. And he was crowing about how he was right all along, and he predicted it back in February. He then played a clip of himself back then. > > At no point did he ever give a shred of evidence. He was just repeating today the same vague allegations he had said months ago. Somehow, in his world, you can use your own baseless claims from months ago as proof of something. Like, if I said this a long time ago, there you go, that’s my evidence. So his post was his cite? > [@Atamasama](#): > > It was insane. The general premise was that Joe Biden was trying to keep his son from being investigated for tax crimes because if they did, they’d find evidence that Joe was getting bribes from Ukraine, and that’s the only reason Joe supports Ukraine. Yes, in the right wing world, people need to have dirt on you before you care whether a ruthless neighbor invades a country without provocation. > > It was insane. How can anyone fall for this tripe?! Somehow Seymour Hersh of all people has been buying into this tripe. > [@In defence of Russia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/1268): > > This gotcha of another Russian apologist, veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, is wild! Here’s what Seymour Hersh wrote in an article, published on the Substack platform and repeated on Russian state media: Bellingcat guy looks into the phrase “waif in his underwear”. Compare the number of google hits for the phrase in English and Russian: [https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1684525701091692544](https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1684525701091692544) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/343 "2023-07-28T22:08:12Z")
Harsh slam at Nigeria for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/344 "2023-07-29T13:29:58Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Not yet, but I believe he has put himself on the radar for most of the mods now. If he makes ranting, citeless posts in P&E or GD please flag them. It will allow us to stop the hijacking and hopefully change his posting style. And if you think he’s trolling in any other forum, please report that, too. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/345 "2023-08-14T19:43:41Z")
FUCK YOU DISCOURSE, HOW DO YOU KEEP UNIGNORING THAT POS Whew, got that out of my system. I found myself seeing HB spouting in the “sneering at people with less formal education” and just as I posted a rebuttal thought, didn’t I ignore that person for being such a smugly self-assured blind bigot? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/346 "2023-08-15T16:27:37Z")
What was HBDC’s timeline on when the BIG Hunter Biden or Joe Biden news was going to come out? That was before his thread ban over in the Hunter Biden thread. Are we past the drop dead date? Is he now starting to question his news sources? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/347 "2023-08-15T16:40:29Z")
“I imagine within a week”, which was posted 20 days ago. A true believer ever questioning Fox News? That stopped being funny at least a decade ago ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/348 "2023-08-15T17:05:02Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Are we past the drop dead date? Is he now starting to question his news sources? I imagine it’s no different than other cults that promise an apocalypse on a particular date. Once it comes and goes, and nothing happens, there is an excuse and another date. And people swallow it up, because it’s a cult. HBDC is taking in the Qult messaging, so I don’t see why this should go any differently. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/349 "2023-08-15T18:28:04Z")
I guess I’d be a terrible cultist. If my leader said that the world is ending on Thursday or we will all be bodily taken up to paradise on March 5th or whatever, and it didn’t happen, I’d give up. If my news sources were so terrible that they had me itching for a specific thing on a specific date and it was wrong, I’d probably try and find better news sources. Maybe that’s why there’s no real Pit thread about me. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/350 "2023-08-15T20:18:56Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > FUCK YOU DISCOURSE, HOW DO YOU KEEP UNIGNORING THAT POS What probably happened is you only ignored for a month. Ignores are temporary by default, you have to specify if you want it to be permanent. Furthermore [there’s a bug](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ignore-user-date-range-seems-buggy-in-safari-or-firefox-on-touchscreen-desktop/274993) that prevents you from permanently ignoring users if you’re using certain browsers on certain devices. But the bug was squashed today and should disappear soon. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/351 "2023-08-15T20:25:04Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I imagine it’s no different than other cults that promise an apocalypse on a particular date. Once it comes and goes, and nothing happens, there is an excuse and another date. And people swallow it up, because it’s a cult. > [@RitterSport](#): > > I guess I’d be a terrible cultist. If my leader said that the world is ending on Thursday or we will all be bodily taken up to paradise on March 5th or whatever, and it didn’t happen, I’d give up. If my news sources were so terrible that they had me itching for a specific thing on a specific date and it was wrong, I’d probably try and find better news sources. > **[When Prophecy Fails](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails)** > > When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group That Predicted the Destruction of the World is a classic work of social psychology by Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter, published in 1956, detailing a study of a small UFO religion in Chicago called the Seekers that believed in an imminent apocalypse. The authors took a particular interest in the members' coping mechanisms after the event did not occur, focusing on the cognitive dissonance between the mem... ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/352 "2023-08-15T20:34:21Z")
Man, I hope I never fall for those kinds of things. (crosses fingers, rubs lucky magic foot, knocks wood) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/353 "2023-08-15T20:37:38Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Furthermore [there’s a bug](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ignore-user-date-range-seems-buggy-in-safari-or-firefox-on-touchscreen-desktop/274993) that prevents you from permanently ignoring users if you’re using certain browsers on certain devices. But the bug was squashed today and should disappear soon. That’s more likely a scenario, I’ve reported this problem before, and been extra careful to select the ‘forever’ option as a result. But who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/354 "2023-08-15T22:13:20Z")
🙂 I also like to think I would be impervious to cultist thinking. And maybe I would be! But of course what cult leaders do is separate their followers from everyone with a contrary opinion. So if the world didn’t end on May 11, I might leave. But if everybody I knew, everybody I loved, everybody I relied on, everybody I played games with and had conversations with and had dinner with, if all the people in my life agreed with dear Leader that the world was now going to end on September 29, and if it was clear that I’d be shunned if I expressed what I really thought…well, I’m not at all sure I wouldn’t at least say I agreed too. It can be scary to express a competing opinion in those circumstances. Thus, Fox News. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/355 "2023-08-15T22:20:20Z")
And I’ve seen very few examples of people who were well known, and almost instantly forgotten, upon their deaths. I listened to him when he first went national in the late 1980s, because I recognized a lot of it as satire. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/356 "2023-08-15T22:31:15Z")
Having missed the edit deadline, forgotten by way Mr. Limburger was. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/357 "2023-08-16T13:33:34Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > I also like to think I would be impervious to cultist thinking. And maybe I would be! > > But of course what cult leaders do is separate their followers from everyone with a contrary opinion. > > So if the world didn’t end on May 11, I might leave. But if everybody I knew, everybody I loved, everybody I relied on, everybody I played games with and had conversations with and had dinner with, if all the people in my life agreed with dear Leader that the world was now going to end on September 29, and if it was clear that I’d be shunned if I expressed what I really thought…well, I’m not at all sure I wouldn’t at least say I agreed too. It can be scary to express a competing opinion in those circumstances. > > Thus, Fox News. I would be scarier to continue to associate with people who have just demonstrated that their mental faculties are so obviously _that_ degraded. I’d just find a new batch of acquaintances, and minimize contact with the relations to the minimum necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/358 "2023-08-16T15:06:36Z")
I think that you and Ulf are underestimating the extent to which cult members invest their entire identity into the cult. Given the choice between, deciding that everything they’ve ever known, felt or believed is a lie and I have entirely wasted my life, versus accepting some rationalization for why they got the date wrong, its much easier to take the latter path. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/359 "2023-08-21T19:58:53Z")
How about a semi-pit? Honeybadger drives me nuts in political threads, and seems to starts other threads without spending two seconds to think it out himself. In [this recent one](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-water-cover-the-entire-surface-of-earth/988810), he even admits: > [@Why doesn't water cover the entire surface of Earth?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-water-cover-the-entire-surface-of-earth/988810/10): > > I have no idea why this question suddenly popped up in my head as I have never even given it a thought before. But lo and behold, his silly question has turned into an entertaining thread with 50+ posts, many citing advanced geological research. So, yay, HDC. Stay weird. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/360 "2023-08-21T20:33:49Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > But lo and behold, his silly question has turned into an entertaining thread with 50+ posts, many citing advanced geological research. So, yay, HDC. Stay weird. That is indeed his ~~most~~ sole redeeming feature. Shame about the other features. Most charitably described as curmudgeonly, and they go rapidly into the shitter / Pit from there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183.md?page=19)