# Pitting Honeybadger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183 "2018-03-07T15:40:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/501 "2023-09-19T04:19:20Z")

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Are you completely incapable of backing up anything you say with facts? You just don’t seem to be grounded in reality at all.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/502 "2023-09-19T04:30:17Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Better hope Sam returns

Fucking big dinner Sam’s eating.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/503 "2023-09-19T04:32:48Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> Something as public as the Biden issue does not need sources. All you have to do is turn the channel once in a while. You have your head up your ass like the rest of your crew.

So, your “cites” are essentially you declaring, “I can’t believe you all aren’t seeing what I’m seeing”?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/504 "2023-09-19T04:50:12Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> Something as public as the Biden issue does not need sources. All you have to do is turn the channel once in a while. You have your head up your ass like the rest of your crew.

Doesn’t the fact that you can’t elucidate a single instance give you pause?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/505 "2023-09-19T05:27:47Z")

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Read, please. Pick up a paper. Look up a decent site on the Internet. TV is for entertainment purposes not real news. Much.

PBS News hour is ok.

Fox is lying to you.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/506 "2023-09-19T08:04:28Z")

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“I don’t need journalists or so-called ‘experts’, you all need to pull your heads out of your asses and learn the truth from my Uncle Cletus.”

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/507 "2023-09-19T10:30:36Z")

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There is nothing. Not a shred of evidence. You’re being lied to. And it seems pretty clear your don’t care about facts when it comes to Biden - you want to be lied to.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/508 "2023-09-19T11:30:23Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> This all affects how people view them. The blame needs to be aimed at where it is. The blacks need to call out the shitheads and stop making excuses for them.

I think your postulated view of the cause and effect aspect of this issue is skewed. The negative aspects of a culture aren’t responsible for racism. People who are already racists simply seize on that negativity as a means to further their racist agendas.

If I hated “white people”, I could point out white supremacists and the white corporate power structure and make the same negative claims about white people in general. “If white people cleaned up their culture, I could have respect for them!”

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/509 "2023-09-19T11:34:34Z")

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The way you quoted this makes it look like I said this – I’m going to report your post because the quote is so screwed up.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/510 "2023-09-19T11:36:17Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> So, your “cites” are essentially you declaring, “I can’t believe you all aren’t seeing what I’m seeing”?

Some people struggle to understand that other people can’t see their hallucinations.

Also: the places HB is “seeing” these things about Biden _are sources_. Almost certainly terrible ones, but still sources.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/511 "2023-09-19T11:37:57Z")

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I’m sorry! I picked a Honeybadger quote out of your post but, because it came out of your post, it looks like it was your quote and not his. I apologize for the poor methodology on my part! To anyone reading, it was Honeybadger’s quote, and my response was to HIS quote, not iiandyiiii.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/512 "2023-09-19T11:44:56Z")

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YEah, I was totally boggling at **iiandyiiii** , of all people, using the racist shithead term “the blacks”. For HBDC, though, it was perfectly on-brand.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/513 "2023-09-19T12:17:50Z")

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I really upset him, and I feel crappy about it. Thank God that Puzzlegal fixed it, otherwise it would have lingered there pointing an accusing finger at me. 😳

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/514 "2023-09-19T12:36:39Z")

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No big deal, all fixed now!

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/515 "2023-09-19T15:14:00Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Better hope Sam returns
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> Fucking big dinner Sam’s eating.

I really want that asshole gone, don’t jinx it.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/516 "2023-09-19T15:16:42Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Also: the places HB is “seeing” these things about Biden _are sources_. Almost certainly terrible ones, but still sources.

Well, yes, but the point is that he nearly never actually shares links or any other information about those sources.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/517 "2023-09-19T16:53:49Z")

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“everybody knows” is not a source.

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/518 "2023-09-19T16:54:54Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “everybody knows”

Pretty good song, though.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/519 "2023-09-19T16:56:21Z")

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As REM famously sang…

_Don’t let yourself go_  
_'Cause everybody cries_  
_Everybody knows… Joe Biden is corrupt_

Those lyrics might be slightly off.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-honeybadger/810183/520 "2023-09-19T21:21:41Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “everybody knows” is not a source.

Just look at all the evidence then. /s

I’m not going to go looking for it, but these types of arguments remind me of Trump, years ago, talking about, I think, why Biden was guilty of something. And not “something” as a placeholder because I don’t remember what it was, Trump just wouldn’t tell anyone because there wasn’t anything to say. Even when reporters asked him directly WTF he was talking about they just got vague answers like “just look at all the evidence” and got angry when they pressed him for an actual answer.

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