# Pitting Jim\_B

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 4, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958 "2022-05-04T18:23:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jim\_B](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jim_b/32/4338_2.png) [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/281 "2022-07-31T13:45:43Z")

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Understood.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/282 "2022-07-31T13:46:35Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The thread was so egregiously racist that it was temporarily closed by **RickJay** , who happened to see it but does not moderate that forum.

And I would point out that (in my experience) RickJay tends to be the one who is more willing to give the benefit of the doubt for things that seem racist or bigoted, trying to understand why someone might not realize what they said was racist, or have just worded things poorly.

So if he thinks a thread is so racist it needs to be closed, then you very clearly went over the line.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/283 "2022-07-31T13:50:29Z")

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It’s not unnecessary- someone who doesn’t have “authority” in that space steps in with a to help with a judgement call. The person with “authority” is thanking them for the help and, implicitly, affirming the call.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/284 "2022-07-31T14:05:02Z")

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> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> And Our Lady of Mount Carmel, please give me the strength to not say, or even think

Nice that one of those things is already covered so you agnostic, almost atheist, non-belief in the power of OLoMC doesn’t need to be taxed.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/285 "2022-07-31T14:08:34Z")

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> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> It’s giving me a headache. Literally.

This gave me a headache. Figuratively.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/286 "2022-07-31T14:13:19Z")

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Funny thing is as a group we have often let **Jim\_B** off with just a note. Here is a thread that is retrospect I am thinking we were too light on him. Bothering **QtM** for no good reason verges on Trolling or more likely actually passes the line.

> [@Doctor's Thinking of Putting Me On Zoloft](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-thinking-of-putting-me-on-zoloft/962963):
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> Doctor is thinking of putting me on [Zoloft](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sertraline). As you can see, it has a myriad of side effects. But how common are they? Anyway, I’ll cut to the chase. I have three main concerns: glaucoma, sexual side effects and (moderate) alcohol intake. I asked my eye doctor about my preëxisting glaucoma. And she sees no problem. I trust her, she’s a good doctor. But she will monitor my eye pressure just in case. My plan: I will take the Zoloft for a week, and have my eye pressure checked then. If my eye pres…

> [@Doctor's Thinking of Putting Me On Zoloft](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-thinking-of-putting-me-on-zoloft/962963/3):
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> Then I have to ask: where is @Qadgop_the_Mercotan slightly_smiling_face ?

> [@Doctor's Thinking of Putting Me On Zoloft](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-thinking-of-putting-me-on-zoloft/962963/5):
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> Just to be clear, despite the title of my thread, I’m not asking for medical advice for myself. My question is purely hypothetical: like I said, what are the percentages?

> [@Doctor's Thinking of Putting Me On Zoloft](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doctors-thinking-of-putting-me-on-zoloft/962963/10):
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> @BippityBoppityBoo Both and neither wink . EDIT: that’s of course just a joke slightly_smiling_face . Or is it…

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Another example where he got the benefit of the doubt.

> [@Celebrities Who Act Gay But DEFINITELY Aren't?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-who-act-gay-but-definitely-arent/957253):
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> Because I personally don’t think that there is such a thing as gay mannerisms. But that question would be for a different section of these boards slightly_smiling_face . My question is, name a celebrity who acts gay, but who clearly isn’t. I personally am thinking mostly of males. But you can include females. I would like to start with Michael Dorn, who played the Klingon Worf on Star Trek: the Next Generation. He did do a convincing Klingon. But I have noticed that out of makeup he does act…

Though this did help lead to his topic ban along with this crappy OP based on a report that didn’t even say what he said it said.

> [@Diethylstilbestrol and Lesbianism?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diethylstilbestrol-and-lesbianism/955508):
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> I have to tell you, I was originally going to just post this in IMHO or MPSIMS. But upon closer reflection, I realize it might spark a debate. So I’ll err on the side of caution, and post it here. The prenatal drug diethylstilbestrol may lead to Lesbianism in women. I first read about this, I should tell you, in the Merck Manual. But they don’t publish it anymore, in paper form at least. But if you want to read more, [here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7031187/) is one of many online articles about it. But I just have to ask, if true…

Later he admits it is over 30+ years old …

> [@Diethylstilbestrol and Lesbianism?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diethylstilbestrol-and-lesbianism/955508/30):
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> @peedin I am quite certain my copy says that. FWIW, my edition is a rather old one (30+ years old). slight_smile

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OPs like this smoking pile of crap really add to his Rep as a no value poster.

> [@President Biden's Stroke/Aneurysm \[in 1988- edited title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bidens-stroke-aneurysm-in-1988-edited-title/954412):
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> (I assume the fact President Biden had a stroke a while back is common knowledge. So therefore I don’t need a cite. That having been said…) Now I have to be careful how I ask this question. But is there any way Mr. Biden’s stroke could be affecting him now? Because his attention does seem to wander sometimes… I had an uncle (now deceased) who had a mild stroke a while ago. He seemed to be back to normal after it. But really can anyone make a truly full recovery after such an event? Because we…

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One thread I had to cornfield as he linked to a for profit site promoting it as a charity. Even if it was a legit charity, as I think most regulars know, posters need to ask permission of the Mods first. He got no warning for this thread but then compounded it with an ATMB thread again bringing up the For Profit corp. That finally drew warning.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/287 "2022-07-31T14:25:56Z")

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Utterly unrelated, but I hate how Discourse only shows avatars (and not user names) on quotes. Maybe it’s the skin I use, but it’s so annoying. I find that and the weird quote behavior for OPs and posts directly above, to be a big annoyance.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/288 "2022-07-31T14:42:34Z")

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> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> I didn’t malign anyone.

You did. You maligned Pakistani cab drivers. It was a racist thing to do. If you can’t take the most basic step of acknowledging the shitty racism of this malignant post, you oughtta be escorted from the premises.

Don’t get caught up in stupid trivialities: recognize that you were posting like a racist asshole, and we can move forward.

Oh, and you’re wondering if I call people out in real life? I was in an Uber a couple years back, and the driver started ranting about the Bangladeshi drivers who were taking all the routes and their filthy habits (which consisted, confoundingly, of washing their feet in rest-stop sinks–i.e., it was filthy to have clean feet). I stopped him and told him that this was racist and I didn’t want to hear it. So yeah, I’ve called someone racist in person for an almost identically racist rant.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/289 "2022-07-31T15:12:05Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Utterly unrelated, but I hate how Discourse only shows avatars (and not user names) on quotes. Maybe it’s the skin I use, but it’s so annoying.

It might be the Theme because on quoted members I get a micro-avatar about a quarter the size of the one for the post and the member’s name with a colon after.

My selected Theme, found in Preferences/Interface, is Straight Dope Light.

In the reply screen your quote above shows as,  
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;quote=“IvoryTowerDenizen, post:287, topic:963958”  
enclosed in square brackets and ending, of course in /quote.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/290 "2022-07-31T15:55:55Z")

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Cool, thanks! I’ll try that

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/291 "2022-07-31T15:58:00Z")

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I can see the name when the quote is from the same thread but not when the quote is from a different thread. In that circumstance the real estate that would be the username is replaced with the thread title and forum.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/292 "2022-07-31T16:16:46Z")

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If Jim\_B isn’t the troll his posts make him appear to be I don’t want to hurt his feelings, so I’ll respond in this roundabout way.

> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> I wasn’t sure where to put this, so not to chance fate, I’ll put it here.

A sensible person who felt moderation was problematic would post in ATMB. A fool, someone with cerebral diarrhea or a troll would write something like this.

> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> I did a thread about Pakistani cab drivers and religious freedom. I won’t post a link, for the same reason. But I was accused of racism for posting it and it was closed. I just wanted to say that it was not my intention for it to seem that way. If there is still a link to it somewhere, you can decide for yourself.

“For the same reason”? I think, only because it’s the only interpretation that makes a modicum of sense, he means “as to not chance fate”. But that’s either nonsense (why would it be a problem to link to any thread from the pit?) or trollish as all heck.

> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> Also one of the moderators called it a “racist rant”. That is a very serious charge to make of anyone. I am not commenting on the charge. But I feel compelled to state that fact.

No offense, but you posted something that was incredibly racist. Didn’t try to verify it. Then, instead of asking if it could possibly be true that Pakistani taxi drivers stink of BO, you asked if could be true that religious discrimination laws would protect them.  
That is the act of someone who is either so racist they don’t question their memory of a blatantly racist story, or a troll. Or both.  
I’m not commenting on whether this means you are a racist, a troll, dumb as two short planks, a combination of all three or none of them, Jim\_B. But I feel compelled to state the facts.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/293 "2022-07-31T16:22:02Z")

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> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> Also one of the moderators called it a “racist rant”. That is a very serious charge to make of anyone. I am not commenting on the charge. But I feel compelled to state that fact.

> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> As I also said before, anyone is welcome to read the other threads that were closed, and that I was admonished or outright warned for.

> [@Jim\_B](#):
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> Also @wolfpup ironically seems to agree with me that **What\_Exit** does hate me. I think moderators are supposed to be impartial, aren’t they? They warn and sanction us for what we have done? Not their personal distaste for us.
> 
> Am I wrong?

[Moderating]  
Complaints about moderation are not allowed in the Pit. If you have an issue with how your posts have been moderated, the correct place to take it up is in ATMB.

This is a formal warning. Your posting privileges are under review.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/294 "2022-07-31T16:53:44Z")

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Another one bites the dust.

> [@Jim\_B has been banned for violating the Terms of Service](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimb-has-been-banned-for-violating-the-terms-of-service/968872):
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> Jim\_B is being banned for a history of not following our rules and ignoring moderator guidance. He has broken the cardinal rule (don’t be a jerk) specifically by posting hate speech. That and other rule violations are documented (in part, his posting history and list or warnings is extensive) below. The most recent examples are: Complaining about moderation outside of ATMB See and We sometimes cut some slack for newcomers, but Jim\_B was a charter member, and surely knows that ATMB is th…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/295 "2022-07-31T16:56:53Z")

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Thank Christ.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/296 "2022-07-31T16:58:00Z")

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It was clear he was headed down that path as soon as he started responding here. Based on timing and some of his recent posts, I wouldn’t dismiss the idea that he’s a trock for Martin\_Hyde.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/297 "2022-07-31T17:12:10Z")

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> [@Jim\_B has been banned for violating the Terms of Service](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-b-has-been-banned-for-violating-the-terms-of-service/968872/1):
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> This is a placeholder post as the mods work on a more complete message.

That’s going to take some time if it’s going to be complete,

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/298 "2022-07-31T17:14:05Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> I wouldn’t dismiss the idea that he’s a trock for Martin\_Hyde.

I think Jim predates Martin.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/299 "2022-07-31T17:17:39Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> I wouldn’t dismiss the idea that he’s a trock for Martin\_Hyde.

I doubt it, but if true it would’ve been a masterful performance.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/300 "2022-07-31T17:17:46Z")

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I just want to add, before this is closed, that I was enormously pissed off at the way he tried to implicate me with his criticism of the moderation here by implying that I agreed with him. What I actually said was the exact opposite, along with the suggestion that he should be warned for criticizing moderation outside of ATMB. It’s hard to believe that anyone could be so comprehension-impaired as not to understand what I actually said. It’s _ **not** _ particularly hard to believe that **Jim\_B** is (was) a fucking lying troll.

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