# Pitting Jim\_B **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 4, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958 "2022-05-04T18:23:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/81 "2022-05-05T14:47:14Z")
Pointing out the logical inconsistency in your post is not trolling. I reject the notion that one is obligated to vote or think a certain way due to their biology. Unlike the current president ("If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump then you ain’t black”) who believes that groups lack agency I believe individuals make individual choices. Now certain individuals obviously lack agency as they seem to react to certain stimuli in an instinctive way and lack the capability to change their own behavior to avoid said stimuli. And these silly accusations of trolling, NAziii!, etc have no weight when used so obviously reflexively. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/82 "2022-05-05T14:50:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > My problem is that his intelligence and coherence level increased too much. He seems like a different person than the guy who makes those other posts. Looks like a rambling mess with digressions and typos to me. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/83 "2022-05-05T14:51:42Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > See, this is why I have to go back and forth between troll and pouty child. Have you never met a pouty child? They’re the biggest trolls of them all. Only difference is, the pouty child _may_ grow out of it. If not, they end up like the poster of the hour here. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/84 "2022-05-05T14:51:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > And these silly accusations of trolling, NAziii!, etc have no weight when used so obviously reflexively. No, you’re clearly trolling. Calling something “hate speech” when you clearly do not actually mean it, that is the definition of trolling. You’re _openly_ trolling now. Trolling is saying something you don’t actually mean solely to get a rise out of people. If I love cheesecake (full disclosure: I do) and there is a thread with a bunch of people professing their love of cheesecake, and I post that cheesecake is disgusting because who would put cheese in a **cake** , it belongs on a sandwich, I’m trolling. Sometimes I think you do get accused of trolling just because you post something that others disagree with, but in this case you are clearly and unambiguously trolling. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/85 "2022-05-05T14:55:43Z")
You all obviously know where the summon the mod button is. Use it. Furthermore, you folks don’t even know how to read. If I would have thought it was so-called ‘hate speech’ I wouldn’t have written the phrase in such a manner where it’s obvious and has been obvious that I am dubious of the concept of so-called ‘hate speech’ to begin with. You all need to try harder. I would parse what was meant, which is obvious, but if you can’t read the original you can’t read the parsing. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/86 "2022-05-05T14:55:57Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > And these silly accusations of trolling, NAziii!, etc have no weight when used so obviously reflexively. I presume that you are accusing @Martin_Hyde of being part of the liberal hive mind here? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/87 "2022-05-05T14:57:29Z")
I don’t have a spreadsheet of who is who. I’m not sure what Martin Hyde’s politics are. I just know that lazy readings and quick accusations are far too common a tactic online. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/88 "2022-05-05T15:00:36Z")
Ok, great. Name all of the people in this thread who used the word “Nazi” to describe Dimbee. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/89 "2022-05-05T15:02:06Z")
Look, **octopus** has struck gold, he has temporarily made a pit thread for someone else about him. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/90 "2022-05-05T15:05:18Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > I don’t understand the jokes he posts. Neither does he. > [@octopus](#): > > Eh, it’s just the usual ‘snarkers’ and sycophants doing what they do. As compared to doing what you do which is to spew noxious ink and flail around like an an orgy epileptic worms. Squeeze yourself back into your own anus, you spineless twat. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/91 "2022-05-05T15:06:38Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I reject the notion that one is obligated to vote or think a certain way due to their biology. Much like someone who is trolling, you are rejecting a notion that was never expressed by the written word of my text. Trolling 101 – find a way to distort someone else’s words, and then attack the distortion. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/92 "2022-05-05T15:08:38Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Ok, great. Name all of the people in this thread who used the word “Nazi” to describe Dimbee. Just because no one called Jim a Nazi in this thread doesn’t negate the fact that certain tactics are utilized to the point where even the boy who cried wolf would object. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > Look, **octopus** has struck gold, he has temporarily made a pit thread for someone else about him. Are you saying that I am not allowed to participate in a pit thread or that only hostile misanthropes are welcome? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/93 "2022-05-05T15:09:59Z")
You’re such a fucking loser. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/94 "2022-05-05T15:10:11Z")
Nah, imbeciles have always been allowed to participate in pit threads–you fit right in. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/95 "2022-05-05T15:10:16Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Much like someone who is trolling, you are rejecting a notion that was never expressed by the written word of my text. Trolling 101 – find a way to distort someone else’s words, and then attack the distortion. Lol! That sounds more like Great Debates or Politics and Elections 101. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/96 "2022-05-05T15:11:08Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Name all of the people in this thread who used the word “Nazi” to describe Dimbee. > [@Jim\_B](#): > > Now people tell me I am worst than Hitler. No, something here has definitely changed. There’s one for ya. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/97 "2022-05-05T15:11:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Just because no one called Jim a Nazi in this thread doesn’t negate the fact that certain tactics are utilized to the point where even the boy who cried wolf would object. “Just because the facts don’t support my claim doesn’t mean I’ll stop making the claim.” Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/98 "2022-05-05T15:12:28Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > has been obvious that I am dubious of the concept of so-called ‘hate speech’ to begin with. I’ve read that octopuses are intelligent, yet I’m having my doubts. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/99 "2022-05-05T15:16:28Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > “Just because the facts don’t support my claim doesn’t mean I’ll stop making the claim.” > > Got it. You can’t honestly deny that labeling certain language or mischaracterizing posters in an attempt to provoke a response to silence or consequence said language or poster is a thing on the internet. The modern online censorious scold is no different than the inquisitor or jealous child who pointed at a rival and yelled ‘witch’ or ‘blasphemer.’ You teach. Surely you understand the concept of analogy. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/100 "2022-05-05T15:17:52Z")
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