# Pitting Jim\_B

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 4, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958 "2022-05-04T18:23:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/121 "2022-05-05T18:18:26Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> It certainly wasn’t hate speech, and view your claim that it was to be pretty obvious trolling, FWIW.

I could have told you that’s what the post contained when I saw “VIEW 1 HIDDEN REPLY”

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/122 "2022-05-05T18:23:41Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Ok, great. Name all of the people in this thread who used the word “Nazi” to describe Dimbee.

1. Jim\_B, alleging that others say he is “literally Hitler”
2. Hi, Opal

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/123 "2022-05-05T18:33:36Z")

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There is something that bothers me about this whole thing.

I really enjoy Jim Bean. I have a bottle of it in my freezer right now. Mixing it with some diet cola is delicious. This thread now makes me not want to drink it. ☹

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/124 "2022-05-05T18:45:20Z")

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You should try Jim Beam sometime, too

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/125 "2022-05-05T18:47:26Z")

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Evidently, he has 😉

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/126 "2022-05-05T19:08:54Z")

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Damn, if only I had that excuse.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/127 "2022-05-05T19:13:47Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> . This thread now makes me not want to drink it. ☹

Just move up the family tree and you’ll feel better.

[![](https://media.gq.com/photos/559313257cc23bc864242c59/master/w_1600,c_limit/bourbon-family-tree-large.jpg) ](https://media.gq.com/photos/559313257cc23bc864242c59/master/w_1600,c_limit/bourbon-family-tree-large.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/128 "2022-05-05T19:28:44Z")

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Thank you for that chart. That is pretty awesome. I didn’t realize that Jim Beam and Maker’s Mark were the same folks. (And Knob Creek too.) 👍

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/129 "2022-05-05T19:33:00Z")

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Thanks, I bookmarked this recipe.

I’ll probably have to make it for myself only, as Mrs. J’s list of acceptable mollusks to dine on does not include cephalopods.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/130 "2022-05-05T19:38:15Z")

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Yes! I love that chart and I’ve used it to explore.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/131 "2022-05-05T19:41:23Z")

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That is a cool chart. Thank you for sharing.

Back to the pittee, if I may, what is with all of the 🙂 ? It’s like “regards”; passive-aggressive bullshit.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/132 "2022-05-05T19:43:20Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Back to the pittee, if I may, what is with all of the 🙂 ? It’s like “regards”; passive-aggressive bullshit.

No disrespect, but, _insert disrespectful comment here_. 🙂

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/133 "2022-05-05T19:46:35Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Back to the pittee, if I may, what is with all of the 🙂 ? It’s like “regards”; passive-aggressive bullshit.

I think it is part of his trolling toolkit. He thinks he can get away with saying almost anything by including a smiley.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/134 "2022-05-05T20:07:38Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’ve read that octopuses are intelligent, yet I’m having my doubts.

There even was a thread recently about farming them commercially because they are [delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-farming-theyre-that-good-to-eat/962585), but that does not mean you should wish to eat a poster by that name.

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> This is probably where posters start posting recipes.

Oh, [wait](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-farming-theyre-that-good-to-eat/962585/12)…

Now, back to **Jim\_B** : I tried to be constructive with regards to him. I suggested he get himself a pet, preferably a dog. I stand by that advice. Might do him good. The dog might disagree.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/135 "2022-05-05T20:11:43Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> a genuine halfwit

![](https://c.tenor.com/Qd4db4rBIfgAAAAC/jack-nicholson-laugh.gif)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/136 "2022-05-05T20:16:51Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> > [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> > Back to the pittee, if I may, what is with all of the 🙂 ? It’s like “regards”; passive-aggressive bullshit.
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> I think it is part of his trolling toolkit. He thinks he can get away with saying almost anything by including a smiley.

Also known as the Andrew Dice Clay gambit.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/137 "2022-05-05T21:43:43Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > With regard to the question about whether he’s a low-grade troll or just a moron, the “moron” theory is partly supported by the fact that his writing style (not just the content, but the style) is suggestive of a genuine halfwit.
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> Yes, most clearly perhaps in the Jokes thread, where his submissions seem genuine, even innocent.
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> (If it’s acting, kudos — that’s a bit like when good professional actors have to pretend to be BAD actors for some scene in which their character is acting badly. Not just anyone can pull this off.)

If he’s a troll, I’ll admit I took the bait in his Elton John thread. (I’ll also admit that I couldn’t _quite_ articulate what was so offensive about that post, but I recognized the victim-blaming subtext). Based on his avatar, frequent use of emojis, and former sig, I assumed he was a shallow, anodyne sort - thinks pop music hit its peak with Burt Bacharach, and has the Serenity Prayer and the Footsteps in the Sand poster framed on his walls.

But based on his comments in this thread, as well as @Aspenglow’s calling out the implicit homophobia of his post, I’m leaning to troll.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/138 "2022-05-05T21:51:06Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> He’s made multiple versions of that _mea culpa_ over the years. But he’s never seemed to follow through on self-reflection or change. So, fuck that shit.

Yup, thus the ‘technically’ and the huge but that immediately follows. It’s a classic “I’m not defending myself, but [long defense of self]”. Going back to the child analogy, it’s like they admit they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and they know it’s wrong, but then spends 20 minutes in tears saying how mean you are to make a big deal about it.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Have you never met a pouty child? They’re the biggest trolls of them all.

I make the difference in that the actions are similar, the reasons often aren’t. A child, as you correctly point out, has generally undeveloped moral education, and a lack of experiential history to override their (arguably) innate selfishness. An adult, especially of the reported age of Jim\_B, has both. So a child and an adult may act supremely selfish, pouty, and trollish, but exactly as you say, one can grow out of it.

So you discipline and educate the child, and shun an adult troll.

And now I’m back to how said poster acts in a very childish manner, and not an endearing one.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/139 "2022-05-05T22:28:35Z")

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Characteristics of Jimmy that I’ve noticed, which all may be a clever act, or could be genuine:

- Believes himself to be an intellectual, while clearly not
- Overly confident, but with enough self deprecation, to give off a faux humility vibe
- When called out, portrays himself as an innocent, and its all a misunderstanding on his part
- Wants to be seen as being current and “in the know” on controversial topics
- Views the Dope as his place where he’s connected over decades

My vote is not a troll…but I believe that’s even sadder.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-jim-b/963958/140 "2022-05-06T10:46:55Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> My vote is not a troll…but I believe that’s even sadder.

And yet he had a sloop named after him.

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