# Pitting mah goddamn Saints! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 21, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366 "2003-12-21T21:05:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/1 "2003-12-21T21:05:34Z")
Woooooooooo, boy! Did you guys see that play at the end of regular time? That was one hell of a play! Why the hell couldn’t they play like that in the other games? Ahh, well, good effort, guys. And Carney had to fucking SHANK it! GODDAMN IT! I know, I know, what can I ask from a team that lost to the Bengals last season? FUCK! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/2 "2003-12-21T21:49:20Z")
Didn’t watch the game, GMRyujin, but I just read the description of events on [www.nfl.com](http://www.nfl.com). Wow, that’s freakin’ unbelievable. I think you NO fans should investigate whether any of the local voodoo doctors are seriousily pissed at the Aints. 😃 But cheer up, the Saints can always get better. My beloved Colts finally did. ---
**Author:** ![pilot141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pilot141](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pilot141)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/3 "2003-12-21T21:50:38Z")
That was one of the most amazing endings to a football game I have seen in a long, long time. Wow. Carney better be getting his own ride back to NO. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/4 "2003-12-21T21:54:07Z")
Hey I thought there was a rule about no joke teams in the pit… Oh no joke THREADS carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/5 "2003-12-21T22:06:44Z")
It was a great play, what a shame the kicker let them down… ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/6 "2003-12-21T23:20:57Z")
And you know, I was sitting here, I’d just typed a “Wooo! Go Saints!” thread, and then I said, “Wait, this is the Saints we’re talking about, they’ll find a way to screw up the extra point.” And then they did. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/7 "2003-12-22T01:14:14Z")
I was under the impression it was the holder’s fault…that the kicker had complained about the way he held it and was told something to the effect of “get over it”. Still a crappy ending after a great play. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/8 "2003-12-22T01:22:52Z")
LACES OUT!!! (sorry couldn’t resist) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/9 "2003-12-22T01:46:04Z")
It’s better this way, really. If they had won and somehow managed to get into the playoffs, they probably would have been humiliated. Oh dear sweet sweet Jesus, I still have nightmares about their first playoff game against the Vikings. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/10 "2003-12-22T02:12:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Long Road \* > \*\*It’s better this way, really. If they had won and somehow managed to get into the playoffs, they probably would have been humiliated. Oh dear sweet sweet Jesus, I still have nightmares about their first playoff game against the Vikings. \*\* I was at that game! Great game! Moss went for two long TDs. Aaron brooks looked lost. Ricky Williams was playing hurt. The Saints are welcome back here any time. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/11 "2003-12-22T02:17:45Z")
That was maybe the single most amazing I have ever seen on an NFL field. The lateral play was amazing in and of itself, but the extra point was SOOOOOO badly missed. If you had put it in a script or story, anyone reading it would have laughed at you. One thing that the announcers missed was that the lateral play never should have happened. After Stallworth caught the ball, Fernando Bryant (#25 for Jacksonville) had a clear shot to tackle him. Instead, he tried to wrestle the ball away from Stallworth. Stallworth kept the ball (temporarily) and was off and running. But hey, cheer up, **GMRyujin**. You could be one of us Giants fans. We know a thing or two about blowing a season with the kicking game. ---
**Author:** ![Lando\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f17d59/32.png) [@Lando\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lando_Griffin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/12 "2003-12-22T04:25:28Z")
Hey, I feel for ya there man. I’m a Bears fan, and watching Paul Edinger out there today was just painful. Until he hit the **game-winning** field goal, that is. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/13 "2003-12-22T05:19:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Long Road \* > \*\*It’s better this way, really. If they had won and somehow managed to get into the playoffs, they probably would have been humiliated. Oh dear sweet sweet Jesus, I still have nightmares about their first playoff game against the Vikings. \*\* I remember the days when them staggering ass-backwards into the playoffs was a miracle in and of itself. Ah, well, at least if you’re gonna miss the playoffs, you do it in typical Saints, highly improbable style! ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/14 "2003-12-22T05:57:06Z")
What **hermann** said. Also, I wish teams would have some guts and go for 2 in that situation. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/15 "2003-12-22T06:03:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*I was at that game! Great game! Moss went for two long TDs. Aaron brooks looked lost. Ricky Williams was playing hurt. The Saints are welcome back here any time. 🙂 \*\* Well, let’s see a listing of problems here. 1. During said game, Ricky Williams was not with the Saints. Ricky came in under Ditka. Thanks for making me mention him, I was trying to get rid of those memories. 2. Aaron Brooks was not with the Saint’s. Bobby Herbert was Quarterback. 3. The game was in New Orleans. This was back in the Jim Morra days around 13+ years ago. The Saints getting into the playoffs was treated as if Jesus had appeared on top of the Superdome. We later learned it was really Satan. Anyone else remember the touchdown the Vickings made during the last seconds of the first half? At that point, everyone knew the game was going to be a rout. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/16 "2003-12-22T06:47:22Z")
You’re right. I completely forgot about that game. It was the strike year. I thought you were talking about 2000. I remember the Saints finishing with the second best record in the NFC but getting in as a wild card because they happened to finish behind the 49ers in the same division. The Vikings backed in that year and were not supposed to do anything in the playoffs. I remember the Hail Mary at halftime against the Saints and I remember the Vikes going onto knock off Montana and the Niners at Candlestick. The Vikes then got crushed in the NFC Championship game to the Redskins. Bad times, bad times, ☹ ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/17 "2003-12-22T08:30:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Peyote Coyote \* > \*\*But cheer up, the Saints can always get better. My beloved Colts finally did. \*\* Don’t speak too soon… 🙂 Watch out for them Wild Card Broncos! ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/18 "2003-12-22T09:16:25Z")
GMRyujin, Shut The Fuck Up. Love, A Lions Fan (That’s the meanest thing I’ve ever said here!) ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/19 "2003-12-22T09:23:52Z")
Since I’m not going to be able to sleep until I do this: I’m sorry. That was a harsh response. Please, understand, 24 straight road losses will make one a little cranky. The Ford family refusing to fire Matt Millen will make one downright irate. Let’s see… It’s 4:23 EDT (EST?)… The Fords have 11 hours and 37 minutes to do the one thing that will please 98% of all Lions fans. And another apology is due to you, GMRyujin; I’ve hijacked your thread. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366/20 "2003-12-22T12:30:11Z")
See that’s why Lions can’t do anything right, if their fans don’t have the confidence to stand by their fantastically simple and insulting post, how can they have the confidence to overcome the force of history? And yeah, I’d deifinitely have to blame the holder on this one. And anyway, even if the Saints had made it, they still would have LOST in OT, because they were the INFERIOR team. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-mah-goddamn-saints/220366.md?page=2)