# Pitting Max\_S **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")
> [@Tipping and food delivery services](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-and-food-delivery-services/958869/): > > I’m talking about DoorDash, GrubHub, UberEats, etc. My first job as an adult, c. 2015, was delivering food for an Italian diner (mostly pizza). I was an employee of the establishment, as far as I know - filled out a W-4 and did some dishwashing shifts. I assume they took the taxes out of the latter shifts but there’s a good chance it was all under the table. The delivery deal was, $4.00 delivery fee guaranteed plus any cash tips at the doorstep are mine. I had no discretion in which orders to t… Just pay the goddamn tip or don’t use the service you cheapass piece of shit. Don’t start a whole thread just to try and justify screwing over delivery drivers because they’re the only people you _can_ screw. Funny how you have zero problem whatsoever with the extra bullshit fees the restaurant and DoorDash/UberEats/whatever charges, but suddenly it’s “too expensive” when it comes to paying the only person you will actually interact with. Have you not noticed literally nobody in that thread agrees with you, not even a little bit? Nobody gives a shit how it “used to work.” How it used to work has ZERO bearing on how it DOES work NOW. And you know what else? It doesn’t matter how far they had to drive to bring you your food, what you are paying for IS THE DELIVERY ITSELF, PERIOD. All of your math and calculations are just more bullshit justification. Fuck you you fucking fuck. Pay the tip or take your cheap lazy ass over there and get your food your goddamn self. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/2 "2022-02-08T00:39:56Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > It doesn’t matter how far they had to drive to bring you your food, what you are paying for IS THE DELIVERY ITSELF, PERIOD. Yeah, hard disagree there. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/3 "2022-02-08T00:43:53Z")
Did I say “fuck you” yet? ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/4 "2022-02-08T00:44:36Z")
While I don’t like cheap-ass mother fuckers, I REALLY don’t like cheap-ass mother fuckers who try to justify their behavior with shitty excuses. I’m reminded of a former coworker who used to complain about the 18% large party gratuity that some restaurants charge for groups of 6 or more. They’d bitch and moan and say “I hate being forced to tip. If they’re going to force me to pay 18%, I’m not paying a penny over that.” Dude, I’ve been to lunch with your cheap-ass before. When there isn’t an automatic gratuity you toss a dollar on the table for your $12 meal and call it a day. If it’s a place where I’m a regular, I usually toss them an extra $5 or $10 when you’re not looking just so I won’t look like a shithead through association. I typically solve that long term by not going to lunch with them any more, but with coworkers that isn’t always avoidable. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/5 "2022-02-08T00:45:17Z")
Think about what you’re saying. It matters how much I pay if a delivery is 3 miles versus 25 miles. A longer delivery should cost more and a shorter delivery should cost less. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/6 "2022-02-08T00:46:28Z")
Not interested in more bullshit justifications. Fuck you you cheap piece of shit. That is all I have to say to you ever again. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/7 "2022-02-08T01:19:23Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Think about what you’re saying. It matters how much I pay if a delivery is 3 miles versus 25 miles. A longer delivery should cost more and a shorter delivery should cost less. You assert that like an absolute truth. Yet it doesn’t seem to be one, given that the app itself doesn’t charge differently based on how far people drive. In fact, no delivery service I’ve ever known of does that. They just deliver out to a specific covered area. That you think this is an unassailable truth is exactly the problem. Since it is at odds with the real world, you come off as just making an excuse to do what you want. That seems to be the core issue whenever people get this upset at you. The reality is that no one else pays more for a longer delivery, so it doesn’t even out for that delivery driver when you pay less for a shorter one. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/8 "2022-02-08T01:33:33Z")
You guys are trying to get Max\_S to admit he’s wrong? Bwahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/9 "2022-02-08T01:34:49Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > You guys are trying to get Max\_S to admit he’s wrong? I mean, he’s been given multiple cites about how Doordash payments and tips work and he’s sticking with “some guy told me”, so it feels like a lost cause. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/10 "2022-02-08T01:36:40Z")
Isn’t there a thread where he says the same thing over and over again, probably over a hundred times. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/11 "2022-02-08T01:46:22Z")
Is there a thread where he doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/12 "2022-02-08T01:57:21Z")
He says he’s 25 so maybe someday he’ll grow the fuck up but somehow I doubt it. All evidence on hand indicates against. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/13 "2022-02-08T02:17:36Z")
First up Max - “something subpar happened to me and I survived, so everyone else should suck it up and have that experience too” is all kinds of fucked up. Second - there’s a pandemic. I assume you’ve noticed. Just in case you haven’t though, I’ll repeat it: A PANDEMIC. Drivers are exposing themselves daily to the germ-ridden cesspool that the US has become. I can’t make Doordash pay them a living wage, but I can pay the drivers a fair amount for bringing me my food, AKA tip them. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/14 "2022-02-08T02:19:26Z")
Twenty-five? 🤣 No wonder the thinks he knows everything. It’s a loooong way down off that high horse when you fall. Voice of experience speaking. It happened to me when I was 20. He’s overdue. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/15 "2022-02-08T02:29:18Z")
The problem is that if you don’t realize you’re an idiot (and we are all idiots) by 25, you’re probably never going to realize it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/16 "2022-02-08T02:41:34Z")
I don’t think people usually spontaneously realize it on their own. Somebody else has to hit them in the head (metaphorically) with a 2X4. ---
**Author:** ![CorpusNeptune](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corpusneptune/32/17561_2.png) [@CorpusNeptune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CorpusNeptune)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/17 "2022-02-08T02:53:25Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > you don’t realize you’re an idiot The key to solving being an idiot, in my opinion, is not asking _if_ you’re an idiot; it’s asking _how_ you’re an idiot. Clearly, he hasn’t done _that_, either, let alone realize he is, in fact, an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/18 "2022-02-08T03:05:48Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That you think this is an unassailable truth is exactly the problem. I mean, it’s kind of his MO to assert as absolute truth his own bizarre, byzantine interpretation of whatever set of “rules” apply in a given situation. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/19 "2022-02-08T04:45:13Z")
A hallmark of immaturity. Thoroughly juvenile. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/20 "2022-02-08T05:10:16Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > In fact, no delivery service I’ve ever known of does that. Uber Eats does, at least in my neck of the woods. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=2)