# Pitting Max\_S **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/741 "2022-05-24T02:56:27Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@JohnT](#): > > > > I believe he would have. > > If we have settled the question of the pod bay doors, I want to move onto a classic trolley problem. The ethical dilemma here is much more tricky. > > > There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You control a lever than can switch the trolley onto a side track. There is nobody on the side track. So you have two choices. > > > > 1. If you do nothing, the five people will die. > > 2. If you pull the lever, nobody will die. > > So, @Max_S, do you pull the lever? You neglected to mention the sign on the lever, the one that reads _Do Not Pull This Lever, Under Penalty Of Law_. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/742 "2022-05-24T03:00:37Z")
I guess I also didn’t specify if the 5 people are Black. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/743 "2022-05-24T03:21:25Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You neglected to mention the sign on the lever, the one that reads _Do Not Pull This Lever, Under Penalty Of Law_ . Not only that, but there’s actually no one on the second track. It’s literally a choice between “Pull the lever with the sign on it that says ‘do not pull lever under penalty of law’ and no one will die, or do not pull the lever and five people die.” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/744 "2022-05-24T03:28:13Z")
There is also a small tornado passing by making a faint whooshing sound. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/745 "2022-05-24T03:47:26Z")
Oh, right. Well, you see, the sign in my head said “Do not read to the end under penalty of law…” and so naturally I was morally obliged to miss that part. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/746 "2022-05-24T06:02:44Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I give less than zero fucks for what **you say** you imagined. > [@octopus](#): > > Well, the amount you comment demonstrates otherwise. I’ve emphasized for your attention the part I give less than zero fucks about, since you seem under the delusion that I’m responding to Max’s words themselves. And you’d been doing _so_ well recently. But it seems the desire to pwn me overrode your recent burst of sense not to defend the indefensible. So here you are, on the side of the _seeming_ amoral racist. Feel good? Feel…familiar? Never met an apparent deplorable whose ass you wouldn’t kiss, did you, Putzy, old boy? Looks like he’s trolling you as much as anyone. He’s not the kind of scum you seem to think he is, mate. Just a regular troll. ---
**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/747 "2022-05-24T06:54:16Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I decided a ways back before the testing began to take it (Max) at it’s word - it’s a horrible human, and one I chose not to associate with. It was after/during a previous thread I pretty much came to the same conclusion. I find that at times the subject will dig up useful facts, but anything besides those cited facts is pretty much useless. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/748 "2022-05-24T14:27:57Z")
> [@omenran](#): > > It was after/during a previous thread I pretty much came to the same conclusion. I find that at times the subject will dig up useful facts, but anything besides those cited facts is pretty much useless. Actually, I think that’s a great point. And the reason why I was previously reluctant to put them on ignore. Unlike zero value posters like Octo, who would only show up with recreational outrage and buzzwords, Max occasionally had factual information which was useful outside their editorializing. But this thread . . . well, I made an appeal to his humanity (I know, I was living in a dream world) back #253, asking him to step back and examine what he was saying, only to see him double, triple, quadruple down when he wasn’t dodging like a mad thing. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/749 "2022-05-24T15:15:37Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Max occasionally had factual information which was useful Cite? I mean, dude is a 20-something, clearly under-educated drone, the only thing I can think he _might_ shed light on is what it’s actually like to _be_ Florida Man. I don’t recall him adding _factual_ value to any thread I’ve read. But maybe we just frequent different threads… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/750 "2022-05-24T15:48:05Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I mean, dude is a 20-something, clearly under-educated drone, the only thing I can think he _might_ shed light on is what it’s actually like to _be_ Florida Man. He’s pretty articulate for Florida Man. By that, I mean he says extremely stupid things very clearly with a good vocabulary. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/751 "2022-05-24T15:49:52Z")
Okay, let’s be clear that Max\_S is ignored, and well earned, but again, I repeat, he does actually post content, unlike the be-hatted one. From just a few recentish threads - > [@When was the last time a product lost trademark protection after its name became genericised?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-was-the-last-time-a-product-lost-trademark-protection-after-its-name-became-genericised/964484/14): > > In December the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia upheld a ruling that the Swiss Interprofession du Gruyère and the French Syndicat Interprofessional du Gruyère lost the U.S. “gruyère” trademark due to U.S. consumers not associating the mark with the region (genericide). You can read the USPTO case here, before it was appealed to the District Court: [https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91232442&pty=OPP&eno=18](https://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91232442&pty=OPP&eno=18) The District Court upholds the ruling here: [https://storag…](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.496839/gov.uscourts.vaed.496839.106.0.pdf) > [@Imperial Star Destroyer as a meteorite](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imperial-star-destroyer-as-a-meteorite/964343/7): > > From this website, I’d guess a density of 750 kg/m³ and an ISD mass of 40,000,000 tonnes As far as the physics goes, I don’t know how to proceed any further than this, and that’s ignoring air resistance: [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/7LgCLyl.jpg) ETA: I did find an online impact effects calculator. Here is a link where I plugged in some numbers, but I really don’t know how it works. [https://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEarth/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=480&distanceUnits=1&diam=1&diameterUnits=2&…](https://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEarth/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=480&distanceUnits=1&diam=1&diameterUnits=2&pdens=750&pdens_select=0&vel=2.8288&velocityUnits=1&theta=90&wdepth=&wdepthUnits=1&tdens=2750) When Max was willing to stick to factual information, without editorializing or before they showed the underlying lack of affect, they were able to provide useful information. Hope that helps @MrDibble - and again, I’m not defending his entitled ass for anything he’s said in this thread or many others: just that he wasn’t a zero-value poster like some that can’t go 4 posts without a reference to ‘the hive-mind’. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/752 "2022-05-24T15:51:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > {…} By that, I mean he says extremely stupid things very clearly with a good vocabulary. [![](https://i0.wp.com/farm2.static.flickr.com/1080/1175475919_28d7112c64.jpg) ](https://i0.wp.com/farm2.static.flickr.com/1080/1175475919_28d7112c64.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/753 "2022-05-24T16:13:41Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > You are kicking off an inevitable return to slavery. And sometimes not even a _return_ to slavery, as it was not uncommon for slave catchers to drag away _any_ black person they could find. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/754 "2022-05-24T16:26:45Z")
Oh, you meant he’s good at Google, not that he is a subject matter expert. Sure, looks like he is that. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/755 "2022-05-24T16:28:56Z")
That’s actually easy. “I saw someone out there, fired my gun, and they went running off _that_ way.” ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/756 "2022-05-24T16:32:07Z")
-snicker- When I’m comparing someone favorably to -Octoputz-, do you really think I was going out of my way to say they’re of such value to the board that they should be excused for their abhorrent ideas based on that fact? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/757 "2022-05-24T16:34:08Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Okay, let’s be clear that Max\_S is ignored, and well earned, but again, I repeat, he does actually post content, unlike the be-hatted one. I’ve noticed that as well. But being a more constructive commenter than the fuchsia fascist isn’t exactly a high bar. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/758 "2022-05-24T16:41:10Z")
Depends, is there a lever that I can pull that will make it run into an orphanage? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/759 "2022-05-24T18:47:59Z")
OK - you did not have to go there. : shudders : ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/760 "2022-05-26T22:32:35Z")
Don’t be just a non-thinking parrot with the copy and paste misnaming. Try, however hard it may be for one of your capabilities, to come up with something original. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=39)