# Pitting Max\_S **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/901 "2023-03-23T18:15:27Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I was generally a fan of Data though. I really hadn’t Data on mind, but yeah, he’s similar. But Data was _funny_, while Max\_S never is. ETA: wait, didn’t Data have an emotion chip implanted in one episode that lead to all kinds of hijinks? Maybe that’s what Max\_S needs. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/902 "2023-03-23T18:16:29Z")
Or a third option, you could say “I confess I have trouble with your human concepts of ‘empathy’ and ‘conscience,’ but I recognize the effort in your post and its apparent value assisting my pursuit of a soul, so I promise to give it due consideration.” ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/903 "2023-03-23T18:19:02Z")
Yeah-huh. If you posted that response to a long post in a GD thread, I would report you for trolling. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/904 "2023-03-23T18:20:58Z")
The truth is its own defense. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/905 "2023-03-23T18:28:47Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Yeah-huh. If you posted that response to a long post in a GD thread, I would report you for trolling. Umm, there really isn’t a Pit exception to trolling, though the bar might be higher. IOW, would you like some cheese with that ~~wine~~ whine? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/906 "2023-03-23T18:45:32Z")
In practice though, trolling people in the pit is normal. Random recipes or thumbs up pictures, etc that wouldn’t fly in GD. Not my style, but I’m not complaining (I’m still here, aren’t I?) ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/907 "2023-03-23T18:48:20Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > ETA: wait, didn’t Data have an emotion chip implanted in one episode that lead to all kinds of hijinks? Maybe that’s what Max\_S needs. Yes, his “brother” Lore always has the emotion chip and Data got it at one point. If only that were an option. Maybe we just need a firmware update for Max. Has anyone rebooted him lately? (I kid but Max does legitimately have problems processing things most people find intuitive, and I’ve know people in real life like that. It is very frustrating while I still have some sympathy for him. And to be fair, he has admitted to some struggles in that area, and I usually try to cut him some slack, though I will other times berate him.) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/908 "2023-03-23T18:49:06Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > In practice though, trolling people in the pit is normal. **Random recipes or thumbs up pictures, etc** that wouldn’t fly in GD. Shall we add the definition of _trolling_ to the things you don’t understand? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/909 "2023-03-23T18:49:46Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > (I’m still here, aren’t I?) Oh, Jesus. _**[Cogito, ergo sum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum)**._ That’s what you’re going with? Really?? /s [carry on] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/910 "2023-03-23T18:56:41Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Wouldn’t it be rude of me to ignore, say, **GIGObuster** ’s long and thought out post? Not really, no, but if you _must_ respond, does it have to be in the form of multiple bible-length posts with all the style and panache of a software end-user license agreement? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/911 "2023-03-23T19:03:52Z")
On the contrary, if I was to make controversial posts and then _not_ respond substantively to counterarguments, that would make me look like a troll. **Jim\_B** comes to mind. Yeah, I can be wordy. But you don’t have to read my posts. ‘j’ skips to the next post, and there’s also an ignore function and a scroll bar. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/912 "2023-03-23T19:08:49Z")
Well, I did say that your attempt of claiming that your Senators were not using woke in bigoted and stupid ways was stupid. That you get it or not is not my problem, I only posted about the bigoted and antiscientific ways that the right-wing is using “woke” just to inform others. If you ever get it, it would be ok, but it is not the main reason why I post. That you are a willful ignorant, that is clear. And I did post before that bigotry is a form or willful ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/913 "2023-03-23T19:10:27Z")
Honestly that Woke thread was Trolling bait from the start. I don’t think **Max** was the issue or at least far from the only issue. He was just on the wrong side of the issue. Several posters on the “woke” side were just as wordy and over the top. Also at some point there seemed to be some “not woke enough crap” going on. Basically GD at its worse. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/914 "2023-03-23T19:18:53Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > your attempt of claiming that your Senators were not using woke in bigoted and stupid ways was stupid Okay, this makes your position much clearer. My Senators are definitely using ‘woke’ in bigoted and stupid ways. Admitted. I also didn’t claim otherwise. I was arguing that the word ‘woke’ itself is not a slur on Black people. Use of the word does not communicate that the user is a bigot. It’s used by too many people in too many contexts to be a secret code word like that. I think criminals, at least convicted ones in this country are disproportionately Black. I’m sure some racists say ‘criminal’ while meaning, wink wink nudge nudge, ‘n\*\*\*\*\*’. But generally it’s not safe to assume that kind of subtext. My Senators use ‘liberal’ in bigoted and stupid ways. That doesn’t mean liberal, used as a pejorative, makes the speaker bigoted. The bigotry doesn’t come from the words liberal or woke. Neither comes close to a dog whistle like ‘international banks’ or the six pointed star. > [![](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/qaF5oEpFUV5mfuaozAvLqaocT8dTZURnjKJdHCFeLBJhewEZZYDtzFzoDUBDRwKYqlkTd0KOvhDpsj1S4jPX13NWGBdUwxFN9exNF5Ejd8vAIHggf1ke9vNcltqEAA2-AHBZOLU8) ](https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/qaF5oEpFUV5mfuaozAvLqaocT8dTZURnjKJdHCFeLBJhewEZZYDtzFzoDUBDRwKYqlkTd0KOvhDpsj1S4jPX13NWGBdUwxFN9exNF5Ejd8vAIHggf1ke9vNcltqEAA2-AHBZOLU8) ~Max ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/915 "2023-03-23T19:19:17Z")
That is what happens when the right wing side applies everything _and_ the kitchen sink to the definitions about what woke is, and then we get the deluded guys like Max that do think that a word is incapable of changing definitions or having more meanings added to it. His last post shows that indeed, he is still doing the stupid thing of assuming that the bad meanings of woke that the right wing is using are not an issue. He must believe that when a lot of people in the 80s declared that “Bad” meant “cool” or “great”, that then that definition will remain the only valid one for now on. Maybe then is why he does think that when one right-winger declares that there are just a few bad apples in police departments, that then therefore Max believes that those bad apples are good and great… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/916 "2023-03-23T19:40:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > does it have to be in the form of multiple bible-length posts with all the style and panache of a software end-user license agreement? I’m going to steal this. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/917 "2023-03-23T21:13:53Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > that would make me look like a troll. **Jim\_B** comes to mind. You do realize, that you do come across very similar to **Jim\_B**? Only more oblivious to your own gaps of knowledge and understanding. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/918 "2023-03-23T21:19:02Z")
Seriously, I don’t see that at all. B basically trolled the board with his persona. The “gay hating gay guy”. The “I remember this fact and so I won’t give an inch on a stupid thing I wrote” and many other hits like those. Even link to a for-profit scam site as if it was a reputable charity. Then bring the same awful thing up again in an ATMB thread asking why his thread was closed. And just his general clueless garbage threads threads he started all the time. * * * I would never accuse that persona as be smart, in fact it was pretty dim. **Max\_S** is actually pretty smart, even if his views are dated and distasteful quite often. Max might be more like **Shodan**. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/919 "2023-03-23T21:36:02Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Max might be more like **Shodan**. Except for their habit of annoying sign offs, I don’t see that at all. Shodan was an aged good ol’ boy with antiquated social values, but not socially inept, he could be really funny sometimes, while Max\_S is so literal and pedantic that he wouldn’t know how to make a joke if his life depended on it. He’s also likely much younger and obviously very inexperienced with social interactions outside the internet, at least that’s my guess. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/920 "2023-03-23T21:39:31Z")
Fair enough, but really nothing like Jim\_B either. I should have left it there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=47)