# Pitting Max\_S **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/961 "2023-06-14T14:27:15Z")
Holy Mother of God! I had checked out of that thread because it seemed like The Other Waldo Pepper had invaded it, but man did Max\_S bring his inimitable combination of stupidity and racism to great effect! ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/962 "2023-06-14T14:31:19Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > After a year, I’m still trying to figure out where you can get food delivered from 25 miles away. I meant a 3 vs 25 mile round trip in that post. 13 miles was about the limit of our service area when I delivered. ETA: Double checked and it was 10 miles, not 13. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/963 "2023-06-14T14:36:12Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > inimitable If only such a combination of stupidity and racism really were inimitable. Can you even imagine what such a world would look like? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/964 "2023-06-14T15:08:48Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Can you even imagine what such a world would look like? Sure, I’ve seen the utopian world of Star Trek. Maybe some day. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/965 "2023-06-14T15:32:48Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > equating race to getting a tan. Getting a tan _doesn’t_ change my race. It changes my skin color, not my race. If I am mistaken for a Mexican or Cuban, it is still a mistake. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/966 "2023-06-14T15:41:57Z")
What if you’re mistaken for someone who isn’t a racist? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/967 "2023-06-14T16:14:46Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Topped with a sprinkling of “sometimes it’s rhetorically useful to dehumanize people in order to make a point” which comes off as infuriating self-justification from a long-proven racist. **Max\_S** abuses so much of the “No True Scotsman Fallacy” that Scottland Yard has a big dossier on him… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/968 "2023-06-14T16:24:52Z")
Scotland Yard is in London. It’s not a true Scotland yard. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/969 "2023-06-14T16:31:51Z")
[Foghorn Leghorn] I said, I said… It’s a Joke, Son!!.. [/Foghorn Leghorn] 😉 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/970 "2023-06-14T16:33:06Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Scotland Yard is in London. It’s not a true Scotland yard 99.78% on the Dope scale of things likely to happen was someone making this post. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/971 "2023-06-14T16:38:27Z")
I put “[channeling Max]” before my post but somehow it got deleted. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/972 "2023-06-14T16:40:29Z")
That’s fine, I looked at the joke and said to myself, _“Myself, someone is going to post the Scotland Yard is in London”._ So for me at least, this worked out great. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/973 "2023-06-14T16:43:08Z")
TIL that enclosing things in \> and \< (but the other way around) in this board software causes it to become invisible. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/974 "2023-06-14T16:52:36Z")
Use backslashes beforehand, like this \\ > \ ~Max ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/975 "2023-06-14T22:16:15Z")
The dude is straight up trash. I wish people would stop making excuses for him, if someone is racist, that person is a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/976 "2023-07-03T02:39:09Z")
I’m seeing several people once again arguing with Max\_S about race in the following thread. [https://boards.straightdope.com](https://boards.straightdope.com) /t/well-it-looks-like-if-you-run-a-business-it-s-a-okay-to-discriminate-against-certain-customers-based-on-your-religious-beliefs/986409/162 Link broken out of politeness. Once again, Max is telling people who he is, and persons are trying to argue from a position of reasonableness. I salute you all, especially @DavidNRockies who seems to be forcing themselves to be respectful, but suggest you remind yourself of his past body of work in this thread, or at least take a moment to vent (again). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/977 "2023-07-04T17:52:17Z")
I perceive bog-standard, pre-Trump, Federalist style arguments in that thread. I’m not a Max\_S connoisseur, but if there’s bigotry there it’s covered by layers of legalistic shellac. I agree with Max that you can find precedent for the decision. He couches some of his arguments in the language of plausibility - I agree with him insofar as the decision clears that low bar. Here’s a discussion of the case I found helpful: [Are wedding websites protected speech? Or protected conduct? – Kevin Drum](https://jabberwocking.com/are-wedding-websites-protected-speech-or-protected-conduct/) There are a number of tradeoffs involved in this case between conflicting rights. As a citizen, I think I have grounds for suspicion that the decision was arrived at for reasons other than first principles given the sharp cleavage between liberals and reactionaries in the court, as well as a few of the specious arguments in the majority opinion. Kevin Drum characterizes: > The majority bases its decision on a very thin distinction indeed: Smith, they say, is innocent of illegal discrimination because she has said she will happily serve LGBT customers; she just won’t sell them what they want. Soyomayor is unimpressed with this sophistry ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/978 "2023-07-04T22:18:06Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Kevin Drum characterizes: > > > The majority bases its decision on a very thin distinction indeed: Smith, they say, is innocent of illegal discrimination because she has said she will happily serve LGBT customers; she just won’t sell them what they want. Soyomayor is unimpressed with this sophistry Why am I reminded of the argument that teh gays are perfectly free to get married. Just not to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/979 "2023-07-04T22:25:45Z")
“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” ― Anatole France ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/980 "2023-07-04T22:26:33Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Kevin Drum characterizes: > > > The majority bases its decision on a very thin distinction indeed: Smith, they say, is innocent of illegal discrimination because she has said she will happily serve LGBT customers; she just won’t sell them what they want. Soyomayor is unimpressed with this sophistry I would like to see someone tell this person “Oh, we’ll certainly put an advertisement in our publication for you. It will be overlaid with a banner saying “homophobic asshole”. We’re happy to serve you - we just won’t give you exactly what you want.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=50)