# Pitting Max\_S **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1061 "2024-09-11T18:18:35Z")
I don’t know what his motives are. I’ve long since given up on having any interesting conversation with him. His entrance into a thread tells me to sigh heavily and stretch my scrollin’ thumb. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1062 "2024-09-11T18:42:01Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > He had no policy positions outside of maybe stating he has no clues how tariffs work. He’s only ever really had one policy: undoing any policy enacted by a Democrat – one Democrat (with the initials BHO) in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1063 "2024-09-11T19:03:47Z")
Max’s tactic in the debate thread… 1. Find anything to criticize Harris about, no matter how petty or insignificant. 2. Declare that based on that, she lost, and paint yourself as the person brave enough to declare that the emperor is wearing no clothes. It wasn’t sincere at all. It was bullshit and yeah, arguably trolling. There were things to criticize Harris on that had some legitimacy. She did say some things that were either untrue or needed more context (though it was a couple of things compared to a phone book of lies, fantasy, and slander from Trump). She spent more time attacking Trump than laying out policy or advocating her own qualities. She didn’t always answer the questions. Those are arguable but have some substance. (Note that I think she demonstrated a masterclass in how to handle Trump and think she did exactly what she needed to.) Instead… Mouth was dry? A bit too close to the microphone? Moved hands too much? Was trolling Trump? For fucks’ sake. This was Max just wanting to be a contrarian and was frankly pathetic. Yes, Max is pretty dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1064 "2024-09-11T19:05:28Z")
Oh, and hey, PG applauds the courage it takes to offer a different opinion! What a couple of assholes ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1065 "2024-09-11T19:07:51Z")
I think, after he has been corrected so many times, that it goes beyond “very stupid” into "Deliberately asshole/provocateur. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1066 "2024-09-11T19:12:26Z")
Who is PG? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1067 "2024-09-11T19:15:20Z")
Philly Guy. My take on Max is that he’s a True Believer™, and as such, he does what all true believers do: He has a conclusion already picked out, and then he cherry picks whatever “facts” support the conclusion he wants to draw. Philly Guy does the same thing. Based on a quick read of their posts, it almost makes sense. Then a critical mind says, “Wait. Wut?” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1068 "2024-09-11T19:16:17Z")
PhillyGuy, a “I don’t like Trump but why can’t Democrats nominate a conservative” sort of fella ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1069 "2024-09-11T19:16:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > sigh heavily and stretch my scrollin’ thumb. Country-Western song title. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1070 "2024-09-11T19:18:49Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Country-Western song title. _Sittin on the porch drinkin Pepsi and rum_ _Listnin to the crickets and cicadas hum_ _Someone on the Internet says somethin dumb_ _It’s time to break out your scrollin thumb_ ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1071 "2024-09-11T19:21:39Z")
Bravo! I would buy the single. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1072 "2024-09-11T19:40:04Z")
It needs some more verses about Momma, pickup trucks, getting drunk, and prison. Then you’ll have the perfect country and western song. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1073 "2024-09-11T19:40:51Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > PhillyGuy, a “I don’t like Trump but why can’t Democrats nominate a conservative” sort of fella I get it. It must be a bitch being a more or less conservative never-Trump Republican/former Republican these days. Too conservative to join the DP mainstream, too repelled by the reptilian to buy Trump’s snake oil. The desperate yearning for a more conservative Democratic candidate to ease the dissonance is perfectly understandable. The old school rock-ribbed coastal conservatives have been left unmoored and abandoned. They don’t have a comfortable place and I’m sympathetic. But meanwhile I’m sitting here pragmatically voting for Democratic candidates I think are a little too far right. It is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1074 "2024-09-11T19:45:51Z")
Nah, more like unmoored entitlement. “My own guys don’t listen to me. They always used to. It only makes sense the Democrats could win if _they_ listened to me. Why won’t they listen to me, either?” The idea that maybe, just maybe they don’t represent any sort of majority or even decent plurality anymore and they aren’t entitled to anybody’s time or attention just never enters their heads. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1075 "2024-09-11T20:53:32Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > It needs some more verses about Momma, pickup trucks, getting drunk, and prison. Then you’ll have the perfect country and western song. That’d turn it into a David Allen Coe song. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1076 "2024-09-11T21:06:57Z")
You forgot rain. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1077 "2024-09-11T22:02:09Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I don’t know what his motives are. I’ve long since given up on having any interesting conversation with him. His entrance into a thread tells me to sigh heavily and stretch my scrollin’ thumb. I wish everyone would do that. Because he has now thoroughly enshittified the debate thread with BS about why he can’t vote for Harris. And everyone is lapping it up, trying to explain why it’s a bad take. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1078 "2024-09-11T22:02:40Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > This was Max just wanting to be a contrarian and was frankly pathetic. Yes, Max is pretty dumb. really dumb or trolling: either way he is equally not worth reading ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1079 "2024-09-11T22:27:14Z")
Seriously. So, so, SO tired of those two clear-eyed truth-tellers. I wish (but don’t expect) that people just wouldn’t engage with them. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1080 "2024-09-11T22:35:31Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > … Because he has now thoroughly enshittified the debate thread with BS about why he can’t vote for Harris. And everyone is lapping it up, trying to explain why it’s a bad take. Well, not EVERYone: > [@Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1405): > > This is a binary choice: Trump or Harris. No third-party Presidential candidate has any chance of winning. > > ‘_I can’t commit to voting for Harris because I need to know more about her policies_’ is **always** disingenuous. Either the speaker is trying to fool those listening, or he is trying to fool himself. > > Harris has been in public life for long enough to indicate how she will govern and what policies she will pursue. If we don’t know every detail of how those policies will read, then we are living in the same reality we’ve been living in for every other Presidential election. > > Declining to vote for Harris over some perceived ‘lack of information’ about her policies means that the voter is supporting Trump. It truly is as simple as that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074.md?page=55)