# Pitting Max\_S

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1081 "2024-09-11T22:59:29Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> I wish (but don’t expect) that people just wouldn’t engage with them.

What he clarified later about his opinion was close enough to my opinions 8 years ago I felt it was worthwhile to engage a bit. Whether he’s sincere or not, he’s at least giving the impression of being undecided and evaluating the debate, and I thought it was worth a bit of discussion.

His initial complaints were bullshit, in the vein of “tan suit” level idiocy, but he at least gave some nod to substance eventually.

I don’t think he’s a troll even though some of his comments resemble trolling at times (and yeah, I know a post that looks like trolling is no different than trolling). But I thought it was at least more interesting than just more fist-pumping about how great Harris was (though that’s fine too, I share that feeling).

Otherwise I would have ignored Max as I sometimes do in other threads where his comments have absolutely no value at all.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1082 "2024-09-11T23:02:04Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Well, not EVERYone:

No, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Too many posters feel the need to refute his opinion about who won the debate, if he’s using the right criteria to judge the winner, if he’s making the right choice in voting third party, if his desire to “know more about her policies” is valid. It’s eating right out of his hand.

When someone hands you a steaming pile of dogshit, you don’t have to analyze it chunk by chunk. Just drop it. Thankfully, Aspenglow just gave guidance to do that.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I don’t think he’s a troll even though some of his comments resemble trolling at times (and yeah, I know a post that looks like trolling is no different than trolling).

I don’t think he’s intentionally a troll. But I think his approach to anything that touches on values or morals is so out there, there’s no value in engaging.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1083 "2024-09-11T23:03:35Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> This guy has suckered more stalwart posters into looking like absolute idiots than any other poster I have seen in the twenty years I’ve been here.

I guess you just had to step up again.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1084 "2024-09-11T23:03:41Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> But I think his approach to anything that touches on values or morals is so out there, there’s no value in engaging.

Yeah, it does get a bit tiring to say, “No Max, humans don’t think like that.” It’s like arguing with an AI and just as useful. I have given up on trying to help him pass a Turing test.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1085 "2024-09-11T23:10:12Z")

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Why don’t you go over and try to disprove that Biden hates Kamala?

He just started a new thread in P&E about it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1086 "2024-09-11T23:10:55Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Why don’t you go over and try to disprove that Biden hates Kamala?

Because with Max I have a limit, and I’ve reached mine.

But thanks for the notification.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1087 "2024-09-11T23:13:34Z")

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For today.

Tomorrow you will be sniffing a MAGA turd again, wondering if there’s some foie gras in there. This time for sure! I mean, if there’s two thousand pounds of shit there must be something good in there. Quantity has a quality all of its own, right?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1088 "2024-09-11T23:21:02Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Tomorrow you will be sniffing a MAGA turd again, wondering if there’s some foie gras in there.

Now I’m thinking your criticism is based partially on ignorance. Cite a time when Max supported Trump.

Unless you think he’s secretly supporting Trump, in which case, sure, you might be a hidden MAGA too for all I know.

I mean, at this point it looks like I should stop engaging with you, due to your own trolling, fuckwad.

I suggest you eat that MAGA shit of yours, try not to choke on it.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1089 "2024-09-11T23:57:48Z")

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That new P&E thread went an _awfully_ long way toward bolstering your point.

You should thank **Max\_S** for that 😉

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1090 "2024-09-11T23:59:12Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> It needs some more verses about Momma, pickup trucks, getting drunk, and prison. Then you’ll have the perfect country and western song.

You need to modernize to keep up with the times. Now you need to work in the dog running away but then you learn immigrants ate it, lost your job only to learn the immigrants took it, and too broke for a sex change operation only to learn immigrants get them free.

That’s what I learned from the leading candidate on the Max\_S side of the aisle last night.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1091 "2024-09-12T00:01:39Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> That new P&E thread went an _awfully_ long way toward bolstering your point.

That thread is definitely a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1092 "2024-09-12T00:02:02Z")

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> [@Does President Biden get along with Vice President Harris?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-president-biden-get-along-with-vice-president-harris/1007137):
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> Continuing the discussion from [Trump and Harris agree to September 10th ABC debate - Watch Along Starts at Post 431](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-10th-abc-debate-watch-along-starts-at-post-431/1005440/1418): Does Biden get along well with Harris? Or, is it true that he hates her, as Donald Trump claimed in last night’s debate? Something in-between, a tense relationship? I had read/heard that they don’t even share weekly lunches any more. There was obviously the narrative in 2020 that she was a token Black woman. Fact check, please! ~Max

I’ve link to the thread, it’s easier.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1093 "2024-09-12T00:07:19Z")

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In answer to the question you asked in that thread, what does he hope to achieve, I think the answer is “yuks.”

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1094 "2024-09-12T00:07:48Z")

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It’s Max. Somebody who admitted they, out of a sense of ethical behavior, wouldn’t push back against actual for-real Nazi’s if they were running things and literally hunting Jews.

There’s naivete. And then there’s the SDMB whenever there’s an opportunity for intellectual navel gazing.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1095 "2024-09-12T00:13:21Z")

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Does he do actual concessions, or does he do diversion/concessions where he tells you what you want to hear, then later goes back to spouting the same old shit later, just as if your conversation never happened in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1096 "2024-09-12T00:15:56Z")

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Or do people’s eyes just gloss over the walls of text and they pick out likely bits?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1097 "2024-09-12T00:18:51Z")

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Secretly? Anyone with half a brain can see his both sides shit for what it is.

If you can’t it says a lot about your lack of discernment.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1098 "2024-09-12T00:51:49Z")

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I had not stumbled upon him presenting himself as “undecided” on Trump. Every time I’ve interacted with him in the past, he has been consistently anti-Trump. He always had those weird issues where he was stubborn, but he also would take a more logical (and usually more liberal) POV on many. But even considering voting for Trump after all he’s said does put him a different light for me.

Anyways, I actually came here to point out that I had an answer to his weird thread he made. A phone call Biden made (when he had COVID) when Kamala went to Delaware, where he was very complimentary of her, and saying he stood behind her. And we know Biden isn’t a good actor.

I do have one possible excuse for why Max would have created that thread. But he has to say it for me to even consider believing it. No way am I going to help him by saying it out loud.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1099 "2024-09-12T00:58:02Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But even considering voting for Trump after all he’s said does put him a different light for me.

If you take him at his word (and I’m not saying I do), but he claims he never considered voting for Trump. He was trying to decide whether to vote for Harris or a “third party”, whatever the fuck that means right now.

🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/1100 "2024-09-12T00:58:51Z")

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The world is full of anti-Trump people who will find every reason to claim that ANY opponent is worse. How this fools anyone is beyond me.

He’s actually claiming that Trump won the debate. He’s literally starting threads posting Trumps lies.

If this is what anti-Trump looks like, holy shit, you guys are credulous.

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