# Pitting Max\_S

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074 "2022-02-08T00:26:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/141 "2022-03-09T14:07:33Z")

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From another planet, and just doesn’t understand us humans.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/142 "2022-03-09T14:13:53Z")

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He’s a malevolent shithead that you guys are overestimating on a massive scale. And he’s enjoying it immensely I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/143 "2022-03-10T05:01:24Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> He’s a malevolent shithead that you guys are overestimating on a massive scale.

That’s as may be, but he’s the most dangerous kind of shithead, the kind where some in the peanut gallery might nod along to some of his points. Of course, then he comes out with stuff like this, hidden under spoiler tags and buried in long verbiage:

> [@WV black lawmaker gets email with KKK graphic and anti-abortion message...also sues. Is this right?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wv-black-lawmaker-gets-email-with-kkk-graphic-and-anti-abortion-message-also-sues-is-this-right/959845/151):
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> I think it would be extremely racist to assume the _entire_ race of Black Americans suffers from a mental disorder or are otherwise unable to function normally (I don’t know, triggering uncontrolled hypertension?) at the mere sight of racist imagery.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/144 "2022-03-10T05:26:12Z")

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If this is an appeal to my common sense, something I should recognize as hopelessly embarrassing, it is failing miserably.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/145 "2022-03-10T05:27:38Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> If this is an appeal to my common sense

I think folks have given up on that.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/146 "2022-03-10T05:29:07Z")

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No, motherfucker, this is because no-one except your racist ass said anything about mental disorders or inability to function normally. Being traumatized is neither of those things.

Did love how it took you pages of verbiages to say “I have zero empathy with Black Americans” though.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/147 "2022-03-10T05:34:31Z")

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When the law says emotional distress, and when you say emotional trauma, I assume we’re talking about trauma _disorders_. Not mere stress. The idea of a politician obtaining a restraining order and court damages just because someone is stressing them out is ridiculous, even if it is outright racism.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/148 "2022-03-10T05:37:34Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> The idea of a politician obtaining a restraining order and court damages just because someone is stressing them out is ridiculous, even if it is outright racism.

“Stressing them out?”

Your dismissal of this issue shows what a racist piece of shit you are, Max.

I used to think you were okay, even if I didn’t always agree with you. I didn’t realize you were this fucked up. Wow.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/149 "2022-03-10T05:41:39Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> “Stressing them out?”
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> Your dismissal of this issue shows what a racist piece of shit you are, Max.

If a person talks about being trauma, mental trauma, either it’s overwhelming stress that prevents them from functioning (a disorder) or it isn’t. I’m not aware of a middle ground.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/150 "2022-03-10T05:46:32Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> I’m not aware of a middle ground.

This episode has demonstrated there are a great many things you’re not aware of.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/151 "2022-03-10T05:49:05Z")

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Be that as it may, it has not thus far been a learning experience for me.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/152 "2022-03-10T05:51:13Z")

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> [@I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/854):
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> So you can find _this_ Pit thread, but not your own?

Did you ask me something else in my Pit thread?

~Max

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/153 "2022-03-10T05:52:44Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> it has not thus far been a learning experience for me

The hard part about fighting ignorance is that ignorance usually fights back.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/154 "2022-03-10T05:55:38Z")

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Did I ask you _anything_?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/155 "2022-03-10T06:08:12Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> He never steps into an argument on the liberal/progressive side, which you’d expect if all he was interested in was the mechanics of logical argument.

Maybe this is something I can respond to? I rarely find conservative arguments here for me to argue against. Feel free to point them out to me. The ones I do find are on topics I have little to no opinion on - such as transgender issues or critical race theory. There was within my memory some question about vaccine efficiency I tried to put down in QZ if you can even consider that conservative.

I’ve clashed with **UltraVires** a couple times, and back when **HurricaneDitka** was a member I would often find myself opposing him in debate, but defending him in ATMB. It is left to the reader’s judgement whether either of these posters can be considered to lie on the “conservative” side.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Did I ask you _anything_ ?

I thought you cordially invited me to my Pit thread. To _invite_ is to _ask_.

~Max

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/156 "2022-03-10T06:14:51Z")

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To ask to _do_ something is not the same as to ask something, idiot.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/157 "2022-03-10T10:55:31Z")

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In Russia, ignorance fights you!

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/158 "2022-03-10T11:03:59Z")

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to me he’s the personification of a rules lawyer who thinks being the “devil’s advocate” is beneficial to a discussion …the world at large can generally agree on a principal but hes jumping up and down going but “what about if” …

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/159 "2022-03-10T12:58:43Z")

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This is where you guys are giving him too much credit. He’s a transparent “polite” racist who is playing you for fools. That’s it.

You guys are reacting to

“Well maybe when he said “Nice store you have here Wilson, would be a shame if it burnt down” he really is expressing neighborly concern and encouraging Wilson to check his insurance coverage.”

With expressions of concern about his intellectual and emotional maturity. Fuck that. He’s not stupid, he’s jerking you around. He knows perfectly well what he’s doing. He’s typing away his thousand word posts while his mother his wanking him off, and ge achieves climax every time one of his victims responds to his disingenuous shit as if it is an opportunity to fight his ignorance.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-max-s/959074/160 "2022-03-10T13:02:16Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> If a person talks about being trauma, mental trauma, either it’s overwhelming stress that prevents them from functioning (a disorder) or it isn’t. I’m not aware of a middle ground.

I rarely step into this aspect of pit threads, but this isn’t the kind of statement that **I** would make without it leading me to some serious introspection.

It’s textbook all-or-nothing fallacy.

Look: my bullet either **killed** you or it didn’t. There’s no such thing as a ‘wound.’

It’s a bad look, Max. There are no end of harms that one can inflict on another that are less-than-lethal.

And the implication that _merely being traumatized_ is “on you” (the person traumatized) is rank victim blaming. I wonder how well your conversation would go with special forces operators who deal with the lingering effects of trauma … but can still get out of bed each day.

Stop digging. Find a mirror.

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