# Pitting Muslims **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 3, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111 "2015-03-03T18:20:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/21 "2015-03-03T20:59:40Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Calm down bro. No need to go nucular. When people call me an “idiot” I get defensive, REAL fast. I’m many things, and not all good to all people (though I generally try to be), but one thing I definitely am NOT is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/22 "2015-03-03T21:12:27Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > When people call me an “idiot” I get defensive, REAL fast. I’m many things, and not all good to all people (though I generally try to be), but one thing I definitely am NOT is an idiot. said the idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/23 "2015-03-03T21:15:53Z")
You should consider just owning the “idiot” label, honestly. That’s, like, a disability. The alternative explanations for your OP, intellectual laziness and being an asshole, are pretty much on you. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/24 "2015-03-03T21:16:06Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > That’s what Republicans seem to call it most of the time. No surprises, there, since multi-syllable words are generally too much for them to handle. Really? Granted, I’m not American. But I’m pretty sure almost everyone I’ve ever heard has used nine-eleven, including American TV. Is any other formulation really popular? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/25 "2015-03-03T21:19:13Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > When people call me an “idiot” I get defensive, REAL fast. I’m many things, and not all good to all people (though I generally try to be), but one thing I definitely am NOT is an idiot. In that case, your online security sucks, because some idiot’s been posting under your username. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/26 "2015-03-03T21:31:05Z")
All religious customs are…what’s the word we’re using now to replace retarded? Queer? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/27 "2015-03-03T21:55:02Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > All religious customs are…what’s the word we’re using now to replace retarded? Queer? Mah. I’m an atheist, but I can see some utility in Lenten fasting, for instance. And the word we’re using to replace retarded is Carolinian (i.e., reminiscent or suggestive of the Prince of Wales). ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/28 "2015-03-03T21:57:10Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > And the word we’re using to replace retarded is Carolinian (i.e., reminiscent or suggestive of the Prince of Wales). If, as a Tarheel, I object to that, does that just cement the usage? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/29 "2015-03-03T21:57:56Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > All religious customs are…what’s the word we’re using now to replace retarded? Queer? No-- “Wrong”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/30 "2015-03-03T22:08:36Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > … we had a handful of Arabs over to our house a few years ago … and at just the very SIGHT of our dogs… they totally freaked out! … Wow! That’s something! Religious beliefs are strange sometimes. Some people close to me, according to their weird religion, skip eating meat on Friday, every spring, for like 40 days or something. But check this out… only land animal meat! Ha! (It must be especially dirty or something…) Sea creature meat is ok. Weird, huh? They’ve got much weirder and more hard core beliefs about other things, but I don’t want to come across like I’m bashing them! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/31 "2015-03-03T22:25:02Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > When people call me an “idiot” I get defensive, REAL fast. I’m many things, and not all good to all people (though I generally try to be), but one thing I definitely am NOT is an idiot. Say, nice lob. > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Mah. I’m an atheist, but I can see some utility in Lenten fasting, for instance. > > And the word we’re using to replace retarded is Carolinian (i.e., reminiscent or suggestive of the Prince of Wales). > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If, as a Tarheel, I object to that, does that just cement the usage? Perhaps it refers to Thom Tillis? Grumble grumble, I leave for one little election, and what do you people do? This is why we can’t have nice things. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/32 "2015-03-03T22:25:49Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If, as a Tarheel, I object to that, does that just cement the usage? It’s just a homophone, dude, calm down. People will think you’re from Cardiff. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/33 "2015-03-03T22:26:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Wow! That’s something! Religious beliefs are strange sometimes. Some people close to me, according to their weird religion, skip eating meat on Friday, every spring, for like 40 days or something. But check this out… only land animal meat! Ha! (It must be especially dirty or something…) Sea creature meat is ok. Weird, huh? > They’ve got much weirder and more hard core beliefs about other things, but I don’t want to come across like I’m bashing them! These wouldn’t be those same folks who smear ashes on their foreheads one day in February every year, would it? I mean, those folks are some strange!! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/34 "2015-03-03T22:31:55Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > All because of something their PROPHET said hundreds of years ago. Idiotic. And a good reason - as far as I’m concerned, anyway - to look askance at Muslims in general. As reasons to look askance at people go, it’s not one whit better than, say, looking askance at Jews in general for their squeamishness about eating delicious cheeseburgers, all because of something **their** holy book said thousands of years ago. And as for you people who are grossed out by eating raw meat or bugs all because of a silly cultural prejudice that doesn’t even have religious authority backing it up… sheeeesh. Talk about idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/35 "2015-03-03T22:41:17Z")
That’s because Muhammad was a [cat person](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_cats). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/36 "2015-03-03T22:41:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > These wouldn’t be those same folks who smear ashes on their foreheads one day in February every year, would it? I mean, those folks are some strange!! The Ash People! I didn’t mention that, like how detectives leave out a detail that only the bad guy knows. So you obviously know some of them, too. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/37 "2015-03-03T23:01:53Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > Since this is the BBQ Pit you can take your accusations of “self-idiocy” and shove 'em where the sun don’t shine, bucko. I didn’t post looking for criticisms from self-important a-holes like YOU! Well, from whom did you want to receive criticism, then? Surely, you did not submit that spittle flecked OP without desiring some sort of criticism? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/38 "2015-03-03T23:02:49Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I also have a problem with people who are obsessed over being overly clean. So Muhammed said dogs are unclean, so what? So if you wash up for prayers and touch a dog, you are now unclean and must wash again. But I think that’s **all** it means, strictly speaking – are Muslims obliged to mistreat dogs? Aren’t camels also unclean in that sense? No right-thinking Arab would mistreat a camel! ---
**Author:** ![gracefulfatsheba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@gracefulfatsheba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracefulfatsheba)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/39 "2015-03-04T01:28:21Z")
I am a Christian, but I absolutely hate dogs and the dog-obsessed culture we live in. They’re filthy, stupid, ugly animals. Those who love them are sentimental idiots with a desperate need to be loved who can’t make real human connections. Dog lovers are vulgar simpletons that warrant open contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111/40 "2015-03-04T01:38:23Z")
Did anyone read Richard Parker’s link? The first sentence: > [@](#): > > In Islam, the Qur’an strongly enjoins Muslims to treat animals with compassion and not to abuse them. All creatures are believed to praise God, even if this praise is not expressed in human language. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-muslims/714111.md?page=3)