# Pitting PKBites **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075 "2021-09-04T00:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/61 "2021-09-04T16:56:10Z")
ETA: nm ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/63 "2021-09-04T19:29:22Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > But if he does it once a week, it’s not exactly “random,” is it? I don’t think the correct word is “random”, rather I think it’s better to label it as “arbitrary”. If the violence is done as “preventative maintenance” and not in response to misbehavior, it certainly would seem arbitrary to the one being beaten. It’s similar to a situation where you are a child doing your family’s laundry and folding clean clothes. If you sort the clothes into piles prior to folding them, and your father thinks you shouldn’t do that, well that gets you a beating. If there is no explanation of _why_ doing it that way is wrong, it certainly seems arbitrary. Especially if you were given no previous instructions on how you are supposed to do it. As to whether that sort of thing creates lasting harm, I think those experiences may have contributed to the fact that I have a lot of trouble receiving praise almost 30 years later. I am never comfortable with it, especially at work. It just always feels wrong and I just don’t accept it well; I reflexively downplay anything I do. Yeah it fucked me up. It’s probably not good for a person’s career to always keep your head down and try to do a good job quietly and avoid bringing attention to your accomplishments. Maybe that makes me seem like a “better” person but I’m pretty sure it’s not in any way healthy. Abuse is not good a good thing to joke about. If people tell you that it bothers them and you double down and revel in it, guess what, you are admitting to being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/64 "2021-09-04T19:32:18Z")
I’ve been working with kids for the last seven years. Do I get annoyed with them? Oh yes. Have I been very tempted to smack 'em? Sure, that’s pretty human-we all have bad impulses from time to time, I’d think. Would I ever do so? NO and I’d be deeply ashamed of myself if I did it or threatened to do so. Am I a bad person? I’d genuinely like to know, as this has been bothering me. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/65 "2021-09-04T19:49:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Am I a bad person? I’d genuinely like to know, as this has been bothering me. Being pissed off by kids makes you human. Not acting on it makes you a _good_ human. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/66 "2021-09-05T15:12:14Z")
Good ol’ psychological torture of kids (i.e. the “silent treatment”, confiscating their possessions without warning for unstated or vague infractions) is an alternative for parents who want to avoid physical discipline. Hey, it was standard fare when I was growing up. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/67 "2021-09-05T20:07:59Z")
Oh, yeah, the whole “You know what you did” thing. Happened to me at school, too. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/68 "2021-09-05T21:54:13Z")
I’ve heard that “back in the day”, in some places it was acceptable for strangers to “correct” (i.e. spank) strangers’ kids in public if they didn’t think the child was acting appropriately. There have been news stories in recent years about people who were arrested for doing this. Good. Another thing that used to be common, but thankfully isn’t any more, is parents trying to get a misbehaving child to mind by saying, “If you don’t behave, I’m going to take you to the doctor and have him give you a shot!” and then they wonder why the kids are afraid of the doctor. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/69 "2021-09-06T01:43:06Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’ve heard that “back in the day”, in some places it was acceptable for strangers to “correct” (i.e. spank) strangers’ kids in public if they didn’t think the child was acting appropriately. There have been news stories in recent years about people who were arrested for doing this. Good. There are a shitload of things that were acceptable “back in the day” that aren’t acceptable anymore. As you say, good. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/70 "2021-09-06T01:49:51Z")
…it was this post here a couple of years ago, where he called sex workers “unlicensed whores” that told me everything I needed to know about **pkbites** , and the type of policing they did. > [@Should we decriminalize or legalize sex work/prostitution?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-we-decriminalize-or-legalize-sex-work-prostitution/844294/8): > > I’m all for full legalization, regulation, mandatory exams etc… > > But only if those who practice it illegally (i.e. street walkers, pimps, Johns, unlicensed whores, etc) get hammered to the wall. No more pay a fine and walk. Make legal prostitution acceptable and illegal prostitution extremely unattractive to practice or patronize. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/71 "2021-09-06T08:02:43Z")
I attended an all-male boarding school. There were always a few reasons for my to be called into the house-master’s office, and in my school, that inevitably meant a caning. The good thing about this is that I learnt to read upside down; in order to correctly assess which offense I had been caught on. The bad thing is that, having read the report on the desk, was that I also learnt to fluently lie about what I had done. My lying got to the point where I considered it sociopathic, and upon leaving school I actively stopped lying. I can, however, still read upside down text almost as fast as I can read the right way around. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/72 "2021-09-06T12:43:40Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Some of you are getting a little too crazy over a whimsical post. I added the ending in jest of anyone who would get upset at those sayings. I get the initial joke. As I said upthread, I know some people who would make that type of joke. But it seems odd to me that you would want to continue it once things got real, and people were accusing you of actually beating your kids. Everyone I know would make it abundantly clear they didn’t beat their children if there was even the faintest whiff of anyone thinking they were serious. It seems very strange to me that you would rather continue the “joke.” I would think the time for whimsy had passed. But maybe things are different where you live. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/73 "2021-09-06T12:50:17Z")
If it were literally on a schedule, like every Sunday afternoon, that would actually be less bad than it being completely random. Still very bad, but actually random is just that much worse. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/74 "2021-09-06T15:56:36Z")
@pkbites is showing some pretty classic virtue signalling. He’s letting all of the other conservatives know how tough he is by beating his children. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/75 "2021-09-06T16:11:18Z")
Sometimes when you’re feeling weak a little violence towards someone 1/3 your size can pick you right up and make you feel tough again. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/76 "2021-09-06T16:20:56Z")
I read it as sarcastic defiance. My hunch is that, yeah, pk probably wasn’t afraid to give his kids a good spanking but I don’t get the vibe that he beat them to a pulp. FTR, I do agree that there are better ways to discipline children. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/77 "2021-09-06T21:55:51Z")
There’s a particular subset of a major ethnic group that doesn’t seem to have a problem with beating children. I saw plenty of evidence of that on Facebook after this happened - in short, they were praising him to the skies and said they’d (have) do(ne) it themselves to their own children had they not feared arrest and CPS. Before calling me racist, those were the majority people who responded in droves on social media. It really disgusted me. > **[Vikings running back Adrian Peterson turns himself in after charged in severe...](https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/vikings-rb-adrian-peterson-accused-child-abuse-article-1.1937998)** > > It's another scar for the NFL and this time the victim is a 4-year-old boy, beaten by his dad, running back Adrian Peterson. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/78 "2021-09-06T22:14:51Z")
If you think it’s OK to beat kids because you were beaten and you turned out OK, you did not turn out OK. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/79 "2021-09-06T22:53:19Z")
More than that, if you think it’s ok to beat/arrest people without any evidence of wrongdoing on the mere assumption that everybody, everywhere is guilty and hiding personal wrongdoing at all times, something is very, very wrong with you. ---
**Author:** ![BrickBat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@BrickBat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrickBat)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/80 "2021-09-07T00:43:46Z")
Yeah, as a kid seem to recall hearing some kids I knew who, when even if they were innocent, got a shellacking anyway because “it’s for last time” or “all the times you got away with it”. Sadistic fucks. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/81 "2021-09-07T01:22:41Z")
Like I said earlier on this board, I always ask people who say things like this if they think it’s OK for men to beat their wives. Haven’t had one yet who admitted that they did. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075.md?page=5)