# Pitting PKBites **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075 "2021-09-04T00:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/82 "2021-09-07T01:51:20Z")
If you say: “My dad said that I should beat my kids. I found this advice helpful. Flame me if you must.” . . . and follow it up with “don’t flame me, I didn’t mean it” when people do what you ask . . . well, there’s a fundamental disconnect and at best a failure at basic English communication. You can’t have it both ways. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/83 "2021-09-07T02:10:03Z")
Maybe he’s afraid of getting hit. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/84 "2021-09-07T02:19:30Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > There’s a particular subset of a major ethnic group that doesn’t seem to have a problem with beating children. That seems oddly coy: just say “White people.” Of course there’s a huge subset of white people that doesn’t seem to have a problem with beating children. I’m pretty sure that the OP is about a member of that subset. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/85 "2021-09-07T06:16:53Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > whimsical Or perhaps you were being more “insouciant”, then. > [@pkbites](#): > > The thrashings could be in the zillions. No but really, how often? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/86 "2021-09-07T13:27:29Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Always believe authoritarians when they brag on how they maintain their authority. ![](https://media2.giphy.com/media/B1TMcmoBAaSZi/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47mg7s22qiv0aesj3rtwvog6s00c1fpqy7e6jsj8a4&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > You may not be a pussy, but you sure achieve “asshole” on the regular. So he was close? > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I think someone up thread made a joke about the mother(s) of **pkbites** ’s kids being detainees. I took it as a “rape” joke. Not funny. Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/87 "2021-09-07T20:47:37Z")
Any parent is familiar with the anger and frustration when a kid defies you. “Take your shoes off the couch and put them away.” “inaminut” or whatever your button is. But the majority of parents don’t lash out in a physical rage; they use some other strategy get compliance. On so many of these cops out of control videos, I see a very similar dynamic at play. “Get on the ground and freeze!” “what’d I do?” I see the same immediate rage in the cop that parents have when their kids are defiant. These things seem to play out like children mouthing off to an abusive parent. The cops treat everybody like out of control children who they do not respect. (Not all cops, not all parents, not all children, whatever.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/88 "2021-09-07T21:06:34Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > On so many of these cops out of control videos, I see a very similar dynamic at play. > “Get on the ground and freeze!” > “what’d I do?” I don’t think that’s fair. Those cops are doing a job they’re trained to do. They might be gentle with kids but are trained to be tough on suspects. Cops that go beyond their training or flat-out break the law and abuse their positions, that’s a different story. Those assholes I’m sure are monsters if they have kids. (I know you referenced “cops out of control” which applies to my second paragraph but the interaction you described could also be a normal interaction with someone suspected of being potentially violent.) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/89 "2021-09-09T12:01:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > are trained to be tough on suspects. I suspect a lot of our problems with toxic policing stem from really bad police training. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/90 "2021-09-09T14:31:49Z")
I agree with that. Some places are trying to reform but I’m sure it’s hard to roll back decades and generations of that kind of training. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/91 "2021-09-09T14:54:58Z")
Like any other organization, you can change formal training, policies and guidelines, but the behaviors modeled by the veterans. I live in a town with a lot of police families (almost all Boston Irish). If you listened to the talk both on social media and in real life, they seem to think there is no problem with a hundred “punks” having to die if it reduces the risk they their husband/brother/son/father doesn’t come home by 1%. But this thinking only applies to Black and Hispanic neighborhoods. In our own town, any police action is overreach and overreaction. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/92 "2021-09-12T21:03:23Z")
> [@Info that police can collect without a warrant?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/info-that-police-can-collect-without-a-warrant/950331/73): > > This is absolutely correct. Offering a reduced sentence is one of the interview techniques I cannot do. Big no-no! After a subject writes out their confession there is a form that is read to them that they sign. One section says, in effect, “I was not promised a reduced sentence by the investigator”. However I can say things like “hey, I’m just charging you with this. If I wanted to be a prick I could charge you with this, that, and the other thing”. Notice that statement isn’t a direct threa… Thought of taking this to Great Debates, but why bother with this disingenuous piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/93 "2021-09-13T20:00:59Z")
Honestly, it’s not a race issue, it’s a class issue. Working class people seem to disproportionately romanticize beating kids. If shows your kids (and you, as a kid) had spirit. It shows how tough both the beater and the beatee were. It’s a rite of passage and a sign of affection. It’s totally fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/94 "2021-12-06T12:48:57Z")
And our friend continues to epitomize ACAB. > [@Scammer calls. Does anyone actually fall for them?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scammer-calls-does-anyone-actually-fall-for-them/945018/194): > > For a guy that sounded exactly like Apu from the Simpsons this guy got pretty pissy. > > I won 67K but they don’t know my name? > I’m sorry, but anyone who were to fall for this horseshit deserves to lose $500. I’m sure every Indian (?) person sounds the same to him and victims of scams have only themselves to blame. This guy interviewing a rape victim must be a freaking nightmare. “Well what you say he did sounds pretty bad, but can we focus on why you were there, drinking and dressed like that? Sometimes the universe needs balance. I mean literally, like fuck you!” ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/95 "2021-12-06T14:32:36Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > I’m sure every Indian (?) person sounds the same to him and victims of scams have only themselves to blame. Nope. I do business with plenty of people of Indian descent, men and women. They all have unique voices just like everyone else. But the guy on the phone that day sounded exactly Apu as voiced by Hank Azaria. Had he sounded like Homer Simpson I’d have said Homer Simpson, had he sounded like Shaggy from Scooby Doo I’d have said he sounded like Shaggy from Scooby Doo. That call was so absolutely over the top ridiculous I have to wonder if it wasn’t a scammer but just someone playing a prank. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/96 "2021-12-06T14:43:49Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I do business with plenty of people of Indian descent But are some of them your _friends_? That would settle matters. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/97 "2021-12-06T14:44:53Z")
Friendly business acquaintances. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/98 "2021-12-06T14:45:44Z")
You have a specially designed bicycle on which you practice backpedaling, right? ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/99 "2021-12-06T16:34:21Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > But the guy on the phone that day sounded exactly Apu as voiced by Hank Azaria. Apu as voiced by Hank Azaria has been established to be white racism, and perpetuating the stereotype is continued racism. [Here is a good article](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-soft-racism-of-apu-from-the-simpsons) In the above article, you will read about Whoopi Goldberg talk about “negrobilia”. Its the way White people portrayed Black people in art and everyday life. If you met someone who matches a “negrobilia” character, its about your problematic racist learning. Similarly if you found a real person matching Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, or Mia — the Native American “butter maiden” from Land O’Lakes; just understand that it is your learnt white stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/100 "2021-12-06T16:52:12Z")
You are wasting your time. He’s not here to learn, at BEST he’s here just to wind us up. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/101 "2021-12-06T16:52:56Z")
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