# Pitting PKBites **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075 "2021-09-04T00:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/122 "2021-12-31T21:05:11Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He _is_ a cop, so it is nice that he is demonstrating just how dishonest cops are. Or so he says. He could also be some asshole living in his parents basement. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/123 "2021-12-31T21:06:19Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > Or so he says. He could also be some asshole living in his parents basement Porque no los dos? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/124 "2021-12-31T21:15:53Z")
Dude would flash grenade a thousand black infants in their cribs to save 10 minutes of paperwork. He’s the classic bully cop. ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/125 "2021-12-31T21:54:33Z")
About 8 years ago, I was driving down the road when the truck in front of me stopped. I stopped. He then put his truck in reverse without looking and backed into me. No one was hurt but my car was totalled. The guy driving the truck was a cop. He initially admitted that he backed into me, but when his buddies arrived he changed his story. They took 3 weeks to do their “investigation” which showed, of course, that I was at fault. I fought it and won, but it showed me who cops are. Now I won’t talk to police. I turn down clients who I know are officers. When police officers are going to be at events for my children’s activities (boy scouts) we will skip the event. From time to time, I worry that I am over generalizing and I shouldn’t be prejudiced based upon someone’s profession. Pkbites has done an excellent job of showing me that if anything, I am being too kind. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/126 "2021-12-31T21:56:34Z")
Sierto ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/127 "2021-12-31T22:58:02Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > Looking at how he is reacting to the suggestion that minor changes should be made to make citizens a bit safer in police interactions shows that meaningful changes will never take place in policing. I was surprised at how negatively and strongly he reacted to my suggestion. I see an awful lot of people killed by cops, and i would have hoped that even a cop recognizes there’s a problem with that. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/128 "2022-01-01T04:34:21Z")
That’s because we aren’t “people” to him. We are civilians and as such are protentional threats until properly controlled. To him, only “blue” lives matter, not the people who are paying his salary. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/129 "2022-01-01T06:53:32Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > To him, only “blue” lives matter, not the people who are paying his salary. In his tiny mind, the people paying his salary are the Powers That Be. That’s why he has to serve and protect them. Protect them from the public, presumably. It’s the same with his concept of law. He thinks that laws are made by the powerful and wealthy in order to control the unruly peasants, and those are the laws he is enforcing. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/130 "2022-01-01T07:21:56Z")
I do find it humorous that those who worship/idolize the state are so distrustful of the agents of the state tasked with enforcement. Laws and regulations aren’t going to enforce themselves. What is it about the left’s willful blindness to the reality of human nature? ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/131 "2022-01-01T07:34:20Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > reality of human nature The whole problem is that you have a very warped and distorted view of human nature. You seem to be a true believer in [Social Darwinism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism), a long since discredited and unscientific idea. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/132 "2022-01-01T07:39:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I do find it humorous that those who worship/idolize the state You’re talking about the morons who worship the flag, jizz their pants over cops and soldiers, and have an aneurysm when someone kneels during the National Anthem? > [@octopus](#): > > What is it about the left Oh, my mistake. I expected your points to show any kind of logic or internal consistency. How silly of me! ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/133 "2022-01-01T15:48:35Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Oh, my mistake. I expected your points to show any kind of logic or internal consistency. Hahahahahahahaha…\…hahahahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/134 "2022-01-01T17:10:45Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > In his tiny mind, the people paying his salary are the Powers That Be. My mistake, you are correct. It would take too much logical thought to remember the us taxpayers are where the money comes from. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/135 "2022-01-01T17:11:15Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > That’s because we aren’t “people” to him. We are civilians Exactly. Since we are not LEO, we do not “understand” what he has to go through. He and his fellow LEOs are _alone_ in this fight, and no one understands them, gosh-dammit! Every day they’re out there, fighting for _ **their** _ survival. Us mere “civilians” don’t have a clue… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/136 "2022-01-01T17:35:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I do find it humorous that those who worship/idolize the state are so distrustful of the agents of the state tasked with enforcement. I’m always amused by how the “rugged individualists” on the right spend so much time with authoritarian dick in their mouths. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/137 "2022-01-01T17:42:08Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I do find it humorous that those who worship/idolize the state are so distrustful of the agents of the state tasked with enforcement. - You mean like the ones attacking police while invading the Capitol Building in an attempt to overthrow an election? [Crushing police in a door.](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09/us/officer-crushed-capitol-riot-video/index.html) [Beating police with the American flag.](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/capitol-rioter-beat-dc-officer-with-pole-flying-american-flag/2539161/) ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/138 "2022-01-01T17:54:53Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I was surprised at how negatively and strongly he reacted to my suggestion. I see an awful lot of people killed by cops, and i would have hoped that even a cop recognizes there’s a problem with that. Part of the problem with law enforcement is that they are such snowflakes. Any criticism or anything that even vaguely implies criticism, feels like an existential attack to them. > [@octopus](#): > > Laws and regulations aren’t going to enforce themselves. The problem seems to be the people we pick to enforce them and the law enforcement culture. You can enforce laws without so much death. Not to mention the bigotry seeming running rampant in police departments throughout the country. Maybe conservative panic is the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/139 "2022-01-01T18:16:06Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > Both are always included in the total “officer down memorials” every year. Does this count include those officers who “accidentally” shot themselves while cleaning their weapons? ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/140 "2022-01-01T18:42:59Z")
There is a separate category for gunfire (inadvertent). It usually is under 5 per year. If anyone is interested in the statistics, they are here. > **[2020](https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2020)** > > 436 law enforcement officers were killed in the line of duty in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075/141 "2022-01-01T19:04:56Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > If anyone is interested in the statistics, they are here. Based on this page, we should cut the gun budget and up the vaccine budget to save lots and lots of LEO lives [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-pkbites/950075.md?page=8)