# Pitting Steophan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678 "2017-09-06T22:34:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/21 "2017-09-07T17:24:20Z")

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I support this pitting. My only problem with is is that **iiandyiiii** is far too nice about it, as he tends to be, so as a pitting it kinda feels a little sad and pathetic. Much like it’s target.

> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> I’ve not been following that thread. Looking at Steophan’s defense, it looks like the old “you’ve-said-things-vaguely-along-those-lines-so-you-probably-said-that-too-and-even-if-not-you-probably-really-meant-it” approach. Very common around here.

Yup, pretty much. In Steophan’s own words…

> [@Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11396):
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> Granted, you didn’t use the word “hate” in that particular quote, but it’s very clear from your posts that you think doing so is fine.

So he even admits that he didn’t say what he accused him of saying. Given that, I won’t be engaging with him again. Life’s too short to argue with dishonest assholes on the internet.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Anytime it happens to you, maybe. I don’t see you Pitting the other posters in that thread for claiming **Steophan** is a Nazi or gets a sexual thrill from seeing black people beaten or any of the rest of it.

Are your fingers broken? Did someone point a firearm at you and threaten your life if you started a pit thread yourself to defend Steophan? No? Then fuck right off with that bullshit and go threadshit somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/22 "2017-09-07T18:04:20Z")

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Then why have you repeatedly said that you cannot achieve sexual satisfaction unless you dress up as Hermann Goering, and your partners flog you with a feather duster labeled Black Lives Matter?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/23 "2017-09-07T18:08:35Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Then why have you repeatedly said that you cannot achieve sexual satisfaction unless you dress up as Hermann Goering, and your partners flog you with a feather duster labeled Black Lives Matter?
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

You’re an idiot, you know that?

You completely forgot about the antifa garters.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/24 "2017-09-07T18:15:14Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I understand how things work in the Pit. You post what you think, and then I post what you “really” think, which is a secret desire to be sodomized by a llama wearing a pink tu-tu and a swastika.

How did you get access to my browser history. And I thought I was searching incognito. Gotta say, I love Rule 34.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/25 "2017-09-07T18:15:49Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You’re an idiot, you know that?
> 
> You completely forgot about the antifa garters.

You are a sick, depraved person. One should save something for the second date.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/26 "2017-09-07T18:52:25Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> gets a sexual thrill from seeing black people beaten or any of the rest of it.

That’s “trill”, buddy. After the sound he makes when he sees it.

Also, I thought I was being sufficienty over-the-top in my comments that it should have been obvious I was being sarcastic…but never underestimate etc…

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/27 "2017-09-07T19:54:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Then why have you repeatedly said that you cannot achieve sexual satisfaction unless you dress up as Hermann Goering, and your partners flog you with a feather duster labeled Black Lives Matter?

All the things you could be doing on the internet, and somehow telling lies to defend a nazi sympathizer made the top of your list? That’s kinda sad.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/28 "2017-09-07T22:48:01Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> People are saying those things to mock Steophan. They are accusing him of saying things he never said, just as he did with iiandyiiii.
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> Or, as they say in my country, “woosh”.

…but the problem with that is you guys are doing it _really badly_. The extended **Steophan** hijack in that thread is really pathetically boring. So I tend to skim over **Steophan’s** posts. So when Budget Player Cadet asks:

> [@Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11410):
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> When did _that_ happen?

In reference to Evil Economist’s "To me he lost the right to post here when he made the post admitting he was a Nazi, that he wanted to murder all Jews, and that “Hitler did nothing wrong”, it isn’t just BPC that is confused.

Most of us don’t have the time to deal with this petty shit. That thread is important. **Steophan** should be called out. But if you are going to mock him, call him a piece of shit and leave it at that. Because the rest of us don’t want to wade through hundreds of shitty posts to figure out what the fuck you are talking about. Can we leave the pitting of **Steophan** to this thread, and use that thread to talk about controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/29 "2017-09-07T23:34:17Z")

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What’s ironic is that **Steophan** himself is eager to jump on anyone who draws inferences from \*\*Steophan’\*\*s posts, the very thing he did (in spades!) with **iiandyiiii**.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You’re an idiot, you know that?
> 
> You completely forgot about the antifa garters.

Thank you, **k9bfriender**. Posts by **Regards, Idiot** don’t appear for me without an extra click, so when he writes something so stupid as to be amusing I’m grateful when someone quotes him.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/30 "2017-09-07T23:47:43Z")

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**Shodan** uses snark when he can’t provide a counterargument. It’s not an uncommon tactic on this board.

What I think is better is to just point this out, rather than continue to engage after that point. Point out that their use of snark in place of an argument is them basically admitting your opponent is right. Or, at least, you can’t prove them wrong.

Snark + argument? Great. Snark alone while arguing? Admission that you can’t provide a counterargument.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/31 "2017-09-08T01:10:43Z")

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Actually, the feather duster labeled “Black Lives Matter” is pretty funny in a sick, demented manner.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/32 "2017-09-08T05:38:18Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> …One should save something for the second date…

Have you ever had one?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/33 "2017-09-08T12:30:16Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Have you ever had one?

Well, of course, after all that trouble of setting up the first date, you don’t think he’s just going to release her, do you?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/34 "2017-09-08T14:51:27Z")

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**Steophan** has been active multiple times this morning and yesterday, but hasn’t posted since two days ago. Maybe I hurt his feelings.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/35 "2017-09-08T15:00:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **Steophan** has been active multiple times this morning and yesterday, but hasn’t posted since two days ago. Maybe I hurt his feelings.

Good.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/36 "2017-09-08T16:55:12Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> When that happens and you’re challenged on it, you’ve got to back it up or back off.

+1

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/37 "2017-09-09T17:27:34Z")

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Truly, if more of us heeded and followed **FP** ’s declarations of virtue, the world would be a better place!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/38 "2017-09-09T17:53:27Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Mr. Law and Order ass-kisser admits to stealing shit online. Don’t expect rationality, truth, or consistency from that one.

Whoa, when was that?

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/39 "2017-09-11T12:25:59Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **Steophan** said something incorrect about me:

Geezus, it’s 2017. It’s the internet. Harden The F\*CK up already.

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-steophan/795678/40 "2017-09-11T12:59:59Z")

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> [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](#):
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> Geezus, it’s 2017. It’s the internet. Harden The F\*CK up already.

You’re out of prison already, or did you bribe your way out of those charges of bestiality?

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