# Pitting the National Socialist Underground **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326 "2011-11-18T08:01:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/1 "2011-11-18T08:01:01Z")
[http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,797569,00.html](http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,797569,00.html) I am utterly shocked and horrified by the extent of the killings by this trio of neo-Nazis. The crimes are so repulsive and bloody that like Breivik or 9-11 it is difficult to comprehend even the scale. These people were utter abominations and monsters-utterly fucked up psychopaths. I hope this Bitch of Thuringia-the last survivor-doesn’t get a plea deal out of this. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/2 "2011-11-18T08:08:10Z")
Well, it wasn’t on the scale of Brevik, who killed 77 people, which wasn’t on the scale of 9/11, which killed thousands of people. But you’re right that what these people did was pretty terrible. Surprisingly, neo-Nazis aren’t nice people. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/3 "2011-11-18T08:29:26Z")
Jesus, **Qin** , do you spend your life trawling through news stories looking for the most obvious targets to get mad about? A week ago it was US soldiers who murdered Afghan civilians. Having taken a brave stand against the killing of innocents by Americans, you have now moved on alert the world to the fact that neo-Nazi killers are not very pleasant people. Once again, i applaud your courage in pointing out these evils. All your OP lacked was a mad smiley. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/4 "2011-11-18T08:35:36Z")
I personally think he just doesn’t post things to get upset about that he assumes everyone will disagree with. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/5 "2011-11-18T09:00:44Z")
I happily endorse this pitting against these, and all genocidal fascists, everywhere. There, I’ve said it. I’m so glad it’s out in the open now. I AM WHAT I AM. ---
**Author:** ![mac\_bolan00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@mac\_bolan00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mac_bolan00)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/6 "2011-11-18T10:19:13Z")
9 dead over a span of 18 years? there are 3 million ethnic turks in germany. hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/7 "2011-11-18T10:22:32Z")
Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, [del]Dude[/del] **Qin Shi Huangdi** , at least it’s an ethos. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![willthekittensurvive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@willthekittensurvive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/willthekittensurvive)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/8 "2011-11-18T10:47:24Z")
Qin, would you say you are shocked, shocked to find that their are nazis in Germany? ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/9 "2011-11-18T10:54:54Z")
You know who else was a National Socialist? ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/10 "2011-11-18T11:01:34Z")
Murder is bad, mmmkay? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/11 "2011-11-18T11:13:54Z")
> [@willthekittensurvive](#): > > Qin, would you say you are shocked, shocked to find that their are nazis in Germany? Your swastika, sir. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/12 "2011-11-18T11:57:00Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#): > > 9 dead over a span of 18 years? there are 3 million ethnic turks in germany. hmmm… Maybe they’re slow moving zombie Nazis - that would be cool! Of course, crossing the autobahn would be a problem for them. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/13 "2011-11-18T12:03:10Z")
I’m kinda bothered that people are so upset about the obvious pittings. Yes, it doesn’t make for much of a discussion (nobody is going to condone Neo-Nazi terrorists, islamic radicals calling for death to america, or TicketMaster), but at least he’s not, say, pitting people who make fun of the republican party or something idiotic like that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/14 "2011-11-18T12:34:14Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#): > > 9 dead over a span of 18 years? there are 3 million ethnic turks in germany. hmmm… Committing genocide since 1993 (It’s taking longer than we thought) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/15 "2011-11-18T14:05:49Z")
Are these guys involved with the plans to move the Houston Astros to the American League? 'Cause that sounds like something Nazis would do. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/16 "2011-11-18T14:26:39Z")
Actually, **El Kabong** , that was the Illinois Nazis. They did that as part of there master plan to propel the Chicago Cubs to back-to-back World Series wins. They are closely related though, I think they both drive a red station wagon. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/17 "2011-11-18T14:28:09Z")
Question: is it really good or really bad that after 9 kills they had to blow themselves up to get the police to realize that they even existed? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/18 "2011-11-18T14:35:51Z")
> [@mac\_bolan00](#): > > 9 dead over a span of 18 years? There are 3 million ethnic turks in germany. Hmmm… i retract my previous statement. -.- ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/19 "2011-11-18T14:40:05Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Actually, **El Kabong** , that was the Illinois Nazis. They did that as part of there master plan to propel the Chicago Cubs to back-to-back World Series wins. > > They are closely related though, I think they both drive a red station wagon. I hate Illinois Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![willthekittensurvive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@willthekittensurvive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/willthekittensurvive)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/20 "2011-11-18T15:01:56Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Question: is it really good or really bad that after 9 kills they had to blow themselves up to get the police to realize that they even existed? Really bad, one of them was a paid police informer [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326.md?page=2)