# Pitting the National Socialist Underground **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326 "2011-11-18T08:01:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/21 "2011-11-18T15:33:44Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Jesus, **Qin** , do you spend your life trawling through news stories looking for the most obvious targets to get mad about? And yet, if he pitted something everyone else won’t get mad about, we’d all be telling him how badly his pitting will backfire. Dude can’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/22 "2011-11-18T15:36:51Z")
Sure he can. “Not posting RO threads in The Pit on a more than regular basis” would be a good start. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/23 "2011-11-18T15:38:27Z")
Qin’s dad makes him spend several hours per day doing Google searches for “socialist” AND “bad”. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/24 "2011-11-18T15:39:48Z")
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize the Crisis of Our Age was that threads about shitty customer service keep getting bumped off the first page by murderers and rapists. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/25 "2011-11-18T15:48:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’m sorry, I didn’t realize the Crisis of Our Age was that threads about shitty customer service keep getting bumped off the first page by murderers and rapists. I liked the movie _My Bodyguard_ too, but \*\*Qin \*\*is no Chris Makepeace and you’re no Adam Baldwin. As to the neo-Nazis, I see it as a branding problem. Maybe they can get Marvin Olasky to help them sell “compassionate Nazism.” ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/26 "2011-11-18T16:34:18Z")
Jeez, give the guy a break. He commenting on a news item. I hadn’t heard about it, and I appreciate him bringing it to my attention. It is interesting for a couple of reasons, not the least of which is the odd mix of ruthlessness and sloth-like lethargy that the bad guys displayed. It’s certainly pit-worthy, and continued derision and constant vigilance are among the things that keep fascists from re-emerging from their crypts. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/27 "2011-11-18T17:20:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > And yet, if he pitted something everyone else won’t get mad about, we’d all be telling him how badly his pitting will backfire. Dude can’t win. Not true, actually. Firstly, the occasional RO thread is not the end of the world. What makes **Qin** somewhat different is that he seems to produce quite a few of them. As i suggested in my previous post, it sometimes seems like he searches the internet specifically for the most obvious and incontestable examples of moral depravity, just so he can let us all know how angry they make him. Secondly, i think some of the best Pit threads are, in fact, something that not everyone else will get mad about. When people disagree over stuff, that makes for interesting discussion, debate, and flaming. Also, even for topics where everyone agrees with the general thrust of the OP, it’s good if the topic is one that lends itself to mutual sympathizing or a sharing of stories. For example, a rant about a bad driver on the freeway can lead to a whole bunch of bitching about shitty driving. By contrast, what potential is there in a rant about a neo-Nazi serial killer? Who’s going to disagree with you? Who’s going to offer their own neo-Nazi serial killer stories to help keep your thread going? Who’s going to have anything much at all to say except “Wow, yeah, that’s pretty fucked up” or “I agree with the OP”? I’m not arguing that RO threads should be stopped, or that **Qin** should stop posting his threads. But seriously, is there anything more redundant than pitting National Socialist murderers? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/28 "2011-11-18T17:23:32Z")
From Tom Lerher > [@](#): > > It takes a certain amount of courage to get up in a coffee-house or a college auditorium and come out in favor of the things that everybody else in the audience is against like peace and justice and brotherhood and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/29 "2011-11-18T17:50:05Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Well, it wasn’t on the scale of Brevik, who killed 77 people, which wasn’t on the scale of 9/11, which killed thousands of people. …two more orders of magnitude and we’re in business. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/30 "2011-11-18T18:51:09Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Well, it wasn’t on the scale of Brevik, who killed 77 people, which wasn’t on the scale of 9/11, which killed thousands of people. You know who else uses scales? Reptiles.In cold blood too! ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/31 "2011-11-18T18:52:09Z")
Nazis! Why did it have to be Nazis?! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/32 "2011-11-19T04:07:30Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Nazis! Why did it have to be Nazis?! Exactly. If you look real close at the Amish, you’ll be shocked! Bloodthirsty bastards. As to the OP – yes. BAD BAD Nazis! ---
**Author:** ![qbadger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/fbc32d/32.png) [@qbadger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qbadger)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/33 "2011-11-19T07:11:58Z")
One very important point that needs clarification: are they Nazi terrorists, or terrorist Nazis? I’m not sure I can take a personal stance on this until this is explained. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/34 "2011-11-20T21:07:58Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Surprisingly, neo-Nazis aren’t nice people. Well, I hope they’re at least [kind to dogs,](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PetTheDog) like [the Fuhrer was.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar) ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/35 "2011-11-20T21:23:33Z")
Damn, that’s usually my line. ---
**Author:** ![YourAdHere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@YourAdHere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourAdHere)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/36 "2011-11-20T22:35:05Z")
My guess is that he picked something so easy to gain acceptance here bc so many people here are so mean to him and hate him so much. He is, after all, a teenager and craves acceptance. I think being raised by the SDMB is a recipe for a seriously mal adjusted adult. There are a ton of people who seem to be complete assholes. Maybe it’s either bc they know that they can safely get away with doing it online, or bc they really do talk to people like that in real life and therefore most of their interactions occur online anyways. Or maybe he really deserves it and needs to be told and theyre actually doing him a favor. It may sometimes be healthy to get to hear what people think about you sans sugar coating, one of the primary benefits of having siblings, IMHO. So either way, op, qin, Curtis, whoever you are… It must sometimes suck to be interested in the sorts of things this board talks about, and the level at which it is often discussed, but to be surrounded by other 14 year olds who don’t give a shit. Once you go to college maybe you’ll meet kindred souls. ---
**Author:** ![YourAdHere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@YourAdHere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourAdHere)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/37 "2011-11-20T22:38:23Z")
Just my two cents on the issue. But yeah, anyways, I agree that Nazi terrorists are bad ---
**Author:** ![YourAdHere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@YourAdHere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourAdHere)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/38 "2011-11-20T22:48:44Z")
Oh, and if I’ve gotten it all wrong and you’re actually a 40 year old man, then I’m sorry for the most condescending post ever- especially for someone looking to be respected by smart people ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/39 "2011-11-21T01:48:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well, I hope they’re at least [spoiler][kind to dogs,](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PetTheDog) like [the Fuhrer was.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar) [/spoiler][Spoiler box added, for other readers’ safety] You EVIL, EVIL person. Linking TVTropes without spoilering it. Do you realize how much of my time you just wasted??? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326/40 "2011-11-21T15:36:48Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Nazis! Why did it have to be Nazis?! There’s a big Nazi in the plane, Jock! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-national-socialist-underground/603326.md?page=3)