# Pitting the parents of Jonathan Krohn.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218 "2010-02-24T02:37:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dostoyevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Dostoyevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dostoyevsky)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/1 "2010-02-24T02:37:52Z")

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[Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUbkdwpZ2o), [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOvNWEAtiM&feature=related), and [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc_kFmuSXoE&feature=related) a youth dies on camera as a pundit is born.  
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I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh (beginning at age 12) and wish now that I had just watched cartoons instead. Krohn’s parents should end this.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/2 "2010-02-24T03:24:22Z")

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> [@Dostoyevsky](#):
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> [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUbkdwpZ2o), [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOvNWEAtiM&feature=related), and [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc_kFmuSXoE&feature=related) a youth dies on camera as a pundit is born.  
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> I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh (beginning at age 12) and wish now that I had just watched cartoons instead. Krohn’s parents should end this.

I grew up watching cartoons. I don’t think I missed out in the least. I want to see what happens years from now, if and when this kid has more experience with life, and see that not everything is a simple yes/no, black/white, and all those annoying gray areas start popping up. He may move to the right in one thing, and to the left on another.

Conservatives don’t have all the answers. Liberals don’t have all the answers, Anyone who claims they have a pat solution to everything is either a fool, a liar, or both. I will forgive this kid, because he is a kid.

He did have one good point though - the conservative or liberal “view” does not have to necessarily be the property of one party or the other. There’s a lot of “gray stuff” there too.

Conservative isn’t bad. Liberal isn’t bad. Extreme is bad.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/3 "2010-02-24T03:59:12Z")

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So the kid’s got a hobby. Is it really any worse than rooting for Local State University Team or playing Grand Theft Auto?

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**Author:** ![Dostoyevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Dostoyevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dostoyevsky)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/4 "2010-02-24T04:02:34Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Conservative isn’t bad. Liberal isn’t bad. Extreme is bad.

As a recovering Libertarian, I agree with “extreme is bad”… which (extreme) is how I view a young teen trying to restore America to its conservative roots.

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**Author:** ![Dostoyevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Dostoyevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dostoyevsky)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/5 "2010-02-24T04:03:47Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> So the kid’s got a hobby. Is it really any worse than rooting for Local State University Team or playing Grand Theft Auto?

It isn’t what I prefer to see a kid doing: that’s the best defense I have.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/6 "2010-02-24T04:09:47Z")

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Is being a conservative about being an unmitigated douchebag? And is it wrong that I know he’s a kid and I still can’t stop myself wanting to smack him?

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**Author:** ![Dostoyevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Dostoyevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dostoyevsky)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/7 "2010-02-24T04:12:11Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> And is it wrong that I know he’s a kid and I still can’t stop myself wanting to smack him?

Yes. And because politics brings out these kinds of responses, it ends up being unfair to one side of the spectrum when there’s a kid involved.

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/8 "2010-02-24T04:13:48Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Is being a conservative about being an unmitigated douchebag?

No, being a pundit is about being an unmitigated douchebag.

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**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/9 "2010-02-24T04:21:46Z")

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I think he needs a few more talking points.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/10 "2010-02-24T04:21:53Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Is being a conservative about being an unmitigated douchebag? And is it wrong that I know he’s a kid and I still can’t stop myself wanting to smack him?

I want to smack the audience, actually. They didn’t applaud or cheer when he made a point; they applauded and cheered when he used buzzwords - personal responsibility, protecting liberty, and so on. That might have something to do with the fact that he wasn’t actually making any points. Based on his Wikipedia page it sounds like he was just summarizing his book.

He’s not a particularly good speaker, anyway; he sounds like a 13-year-old with a 16-year-old’s vocabulary. Big whoop.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/11 "2010-02-24T04:32:17Z")

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> [@Sidney Evgeni Jordan](#):
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> I think he needs a few more talking points.

Sorry, can’t. His hand is too small.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/12 "2010-02-24T12:25:10Z")

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Everyone loves a good freakshow.

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**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/13 "2010-02-24T12:42:40Z")

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Has anyone ever seen **Curtis LeMay** and Jonathan Krohn together at the same time? Just asking.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/14 "2010-02-24T12:50:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I want to smack the audience, actually. They didn’t applaud or cheer when he made a point; they applauded and cheered when he used buzzwords - personal responsibility, protecting liberty, and so on. That might have something to do with the fact that he wasn’t actually making any points. Based on his Wikipedia page it sounds like he was just summarizing his book.
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> He’s not a particularly good speaker, anyway; he sounds like a 13-year-old with a 16-year-old’s vocabulary. Big whoop.

It was only a matter of time before some child realized that being a Republican pundit really is that easy.

Edited to add: to those who think he’s going to get a more nuanced perception as he ages, your naïvite is adorable. The narrowmindedness of conservative pundits resembles the lifetime of giant tortoises in captivity.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/15 "2010-02-24T12:57:57Z")

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_“Is Rush Limbaugh Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?”_

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/16 "2010-02-24T12:59:55Z")

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I wonder if **Curtis LeMay** is Jonathan Krohn.

[sub]I’m kidding. I think.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/17 "2010-02-24T13:01:52Z")

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He sounds like the US version of [Tory Boy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWSr1Aw0EBA).

Note: Tory Boy is a creation of comedian Harry Enfield, who was in turn mocking [William Hague](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hague) who addressed the Conservative Party conference in 1977 at age 16. Ironically, Hague has turned out to be an extremely intelligent and astute politician who is well-suited to his shadow foreign policy role. Somehow I doubt Krohn will turn out the same way.

[More Tory Boy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeLSNzEorbI&NR=1).

[An adult William Hague in full flow](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtJRnyJQ-GY)

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/18 "2010-02-24T13:31:21Z")

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Life imitates Alex Keaton?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/19 "2010-02-24T13:38:40Z")

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> [@Hung\_Mung](#):
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> No, being a pundit is about being an unmitigated douchebag.

What’s your opinion on Shields and Brooks?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-parents-of-jonathan-krohn/530218/20 "2010-02-24T13:59:36Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> What’s your opinion on Shields and Brooks?

I hate mimes. Worse than pundits, they are.

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