# Pitting The Republican for no reason whatsoever **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920 "2003-08-18T06:36:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/21 "2003-08-18T18:39:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Republican \* > \*\*rjung has proven his extreme ignorance about, well, anything considering the only attacks he has against me is that I posted something in the wrong forum, I have a history working for the United States Military (I guess it is looked down on on this forum), and not only that, but he admits to not really reading anything I have written. \*\* The “United States Military”? Is this a branch of service I’m not aware of? My completely unfounded wild-assed guess is that you were some sort of low-level spook, either CIA or DIA, probably an admin type, assigned to the DAO in some backwater embassy. I’m probably all wet, and you wouldn’t be able to admit it if it’s true, but that’s the vibe I’m getting. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/22 "2003-08-18T18:48:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JuanitaTech \* > C’mon, rjung. Just admit you pitted The Republican because of his name. Well, I’ll admit it’s a bit of an eyebrow-raiser; it’s certainly not the handle I’d recommend for anyone, up there with other “wear your bias on your sleeve” handles like **One True American** or **The Democrat** or **Devout Muslem** or whatever. I mean, if **The Republican** wanders into Cafe Society and starts a thread about _Freddie vs. Jason,_ some folks are going to wonder if he’s going to talk about the merits of the movie, or just rant about perceived political bias in the film. > [@](#): > > The man never stood a chance, did he? Actually, what I really wanted was to start a thread along the lines of “What do the SDMB regulars think about this new guy, **The Republican**?” But I wasn’t sure what forum it’d belong in, and given the nature of his stuff so far, and the inherent volatility of all matters political in the SDMB anyway, I figure we’d end up in The Pit anyway. So I saved the mods a thread-move, while trying to explain in my OP that I don’t _really_ have the heart to flame him or anything… though I’m sure he’ll provide plenty of ammunition soon enough. 😉 After all, anyone who starts a thread with a title like “How Gore and the liberals tried to steal the election” is clearly _not_ interested in approaching the subject with a desire to debate the issue and possibly change his mind – he just wants to rant. (Actually, it seems like there’s an influx of new die-hard conservatives on the SDMB lately – we’ve got **The Republican** and **Krillian** bouncing around, while **O\_o** just got banned. I’d almost speculate if the board is being targeted by members of Free Republic, though that’s probably a separate thread in and of itself) ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/23 "2003-08-18T19:05:41Z")
Whoa, chill out, **'Pubbie**. You can only hammer the nails through one of your hands, and Jesus ain’t gonna like you hanging off his cross anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MC\_Master\_of\_Ceremonies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bb73d2/32.png) [@MC\_Master\_of\_Ceremonies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MC_Master_of_Ceremonies)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/24 "2003-08-18T19:39:17Z")
**Republican** , as I’ve said twice Nelson Mandela was in maximum security prison and was never implicated in the bombing, infact recently a right-wing SAfrican party and avictim of the bombing tried to indict those they believed responsible for the bombings, Nelson Mandela’s name was never mentioned: > **[DispatchLIVE](https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/u/sign-in/)** > > Award winning journalism. Online portal of the Daily Dispatch and Saturday Dispatch. The Eastern Cape's highest circulating daily newspaper. WorldNetDaily is run by a christian fundamentalist, it’s not much more than a glorified weblog, I have to say the following article produced by WND is probably one of the shoodiest piece of scare-journalism I’ve ever seen: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE\_ID=30632](http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30632) ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/25 "2003-08-18T20:12:31Z")
Looks like the stakes have been raised- poor **december** has some competition now. Although, we have had real bad luck with posters with access to super secret information- I wonder if this one has access to a “special” keyboard. :rolleyes: **Chefguy** don’t forget that someone has to take out the trash and run the floor buffers in these places. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/26 "2003-08-18T20:25:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > Should Gore, or Bush in turn, have called for a statewide recount? Well, yeah, if you mean, “What selfless moral act ought he to have performed if he were a totally ideal person?” Gore called for recounts in certain counties he and his advisors thought were miscounted, for good and proper reasons, as was his privilege under state law. I was under the impression that the first statewide recount was called for by Florida Law … if the margin was smaller than X votes/X percent, a recount was in order regardless of the thought-victor. That information is based on a few news broadcasts from the November/December 2000 time period in order to clear up misconceptions that Gore was calling for a recount of every single vote cast in the state purely as a stalling tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/27 "2003-08-18T20:31:59Z")
The vibe I’m getting is that TR was never in the military; however, he certainly does seem to like the sound of “I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you.” ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/28 "2003-08-18T20:33:48Z")
I think **The Republican** has the potential to be a valuable contributor to this board. He absolutely doesn’t understand the local rules and customs, but those can be learned if he’s willing. He would _definitely_ benefit froma few weeks (or even days) or lurking, especially on the GD board, before posting again. I hope he takes this advice and becomes a fresh and intellegent (and probably controversial) voice around here. ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/29 "2003-08-18T20:59:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\*Well, this _should_ be a thread about pitting the newest Great Debater, **The Republican,** but to be honest, I can’t really do a good introductory rant here. A liberal poster **rjung** Is carping and caustic of tongue. …Don’t worry, **The R** , …His Pit is bizarre. It shows that he’s coming unstrung. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/30 "2003-08-18T21:06:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by december \* > \*\*It shows that he’s coming unstrung. \*\* :dubious: He’s not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/31 "2003-08-18T21:29:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\* > **Chefguy** don’t forget that someone has to take out the trash and run the floor buffers in these places. \*\* Well, he didn’t sound drunk enough to be a Station Chief. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/32 "2003-08-18T21:57:38Z")
My God, what a bunch of snide and hateful miserable pieces of shit you guys are. Nice welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/33 "2003-08-18T22:04:12Z")
I think if he slowed down and learned how we operate here, he’d fit in. (even though we’d be butting heads on almost every issue imaginable, i’m sure) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/34 "2003-08-18T22:08:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by autz \* > \*\*I think **The Republican** has the potential to be a valuable contributor to this board. > > He absolutely doesn’t understand the local rules and customs, but those can be learned if he’s willing. > > He would _definitely_ benefit froma few weeks (or even days) or lurking, especially on the GD board, before posting again. > > I hope he takes this advice and becomes a fresh and intellegent (and probably controversial) voice around here. \*\* You’ve gotta be kidding. Seems to me like someone who bounces from one board to another as he leaves a trail of bannings in his wake. Has anyone seen Razorsharp and this guy at the same time…? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/35 "2003-08-18T23:13:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > \*\*My God, what a bunch of snide and hateful miserable pieces of shit you guys are. > > Nice welcome. \*\* …quoth **Scylla** hatefully and sarcastically. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/36 "2003-08-18T23:25:59Z")
If some guy called himself “The Democrat” and came in here in the same way bashing Bush and calling the election of 2000 a sham without cites, he would have gotten some polite help about doing it right. If he then apologized in the wrong forum, he would have been politely told to go to the right one for that. After that, there would be plenty of hearty "WELCOME!"s. Conservatives of all stripes are targets around here. They have to be especially careful with cites. While the guys on the left are allowed to cite from any number of lefty publications, if someone on the right posts a cite from a Republican organization, magazine, web site, or think tank he’ll be responded to with scorn and lots of roll-eyes. People on the left can post outright falsehoods and get away with it, while those of us on the right are treated to continual archive searches to look for inconsistencies or things we may have said wrong years ago. That’s just the way it is. Republican, be warned. You’re going to have to be better than average, more precise than average, and meticulous in your cites, or these guys are going to go for your throat. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/37 "2003-08-18T23:40:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*Whoa, chill out, **'Pubbie**. _You can only hammer the nails through one of your hands_, and Jesus ain’t gonna like you hanging off his cross anyway. \*\* Why’s that, **minty**? No left wing? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/38 "2003-08-18T23:43:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Stone \* > If some guy called himself “The Democrat” and came in here in the same way bashing Bush and calling the election of 2000 a sham without cites, he would have gotten some polite help about doing it right. If he then apologized in the wrong forum, he would have been politely told to go to the right one for that. You know, **Sam,** delusions of persecution are one of the early warning signs of mental illness. Or are you trying to prove **elucidator** correct? (And if you’re looking to nail your palm to your forehead, I believe Home Depot has a sale this week… 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/39 "2003-08-18T23:50:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chefguy \* > \*\*…quoth **Scylla** hatefully and sarcastically. \*\* You left out “accurately.” This thread is a disgrace. **The Republican** , I hope you don’t judge all of the SDMB (or all liberals, for that matter) by the disgusting example set by **rjung**. Trust me on this one: he doesn’t speak for anyone but himself. Welcome to the boards. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920/40 "2003-08-19T00:03:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*You left out “accurately.” This thread is a disgrace. **The Republican** , I hope you don’t judge all of the SDMB (or all liberals, for that matter) by the disgusting example set by **rjung**. Trust me on this one: he doesn’t speak for anyone but himself. > > Welcome to the boards. \*\* …and accurately. There, all better now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-republican-for-no-reason-whatsoever/195920.md?page=3)