# Pitting the Zimmerman trial circus **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419 "2013-07-13T19:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/221 "2013-07-14T17:30:57Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > Profile much? That word does not mean what you think it means. My statement is the opposite of profiling. I’m judging an individual based on that individual’s past history. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/222 "2013-07-14T17:34:47Z")
Where’s he gonna live? What community would be eager to burden themselves with protecting him? Presumably, one with a very low ratio of black Americans, and the sort of white Americans who view him as exemplary. I have been told…and I don’t actually know, it may just be a slanderous lie…that there are such places. Guess we’ll find out. Lord, this time, could You fix it so its not Texas? ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/223 "2013-07-14T17:36:37Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > That word does not mean what you think it means. > > My statement is the opposite of profiling. I’m judging an individual based on that individual’s past history. No, you’re not. You are claiming that someone with no criminal history is a criminal. That is the opposite of judging from their past, it’s (checks forum) making shit up, because you are a disgusting, pathetic excuse for a human being, who can’t accept that you are a fool, and that others know better than you. The others, in this case, being the police and other authorities that determined that Zimmerman had no case to answer in any of those historical events. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/224 "2013-07-14T17:38:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Where’s he gonna live? What community would be eager to burden themselves with protecting him? Presumably, one with a very low ratio of black Americans, and the sort of white Americans who view him as exemplary. I have been told…and I don’t actually know, it may just be a slanderous lie…that there are such places. Guess we’ll find out. Lord, this time, could You fix it so its not Texas? If that attitude is widespread, he could practically go on an unstoppable killing spree, as it would be reasonable for him to fear that any stranger approaching him was going to kill him. Perhaps you should swallow your misplaced outrage and support any attempts to protect him. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/225 "2013-07-14T17:41:06Z")
Well, maybe you’ll get lucky, **Steophan**. Maybe he’ll move to _your_ neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/226 "2013-07-14T17:47:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, maybe you’ll get lucky, **Steophan**. Maybe he’ll move to _your_ neighborhood. He’d be welcome to, if he can get a visa. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/227 "2013-07-14T18:09:41Z")
His employable skill set is rather limited. Which brings me to wonder, how is he going to make a living? Write a book? Talk shows? I know he had a legal defense fund, anything left? Might well be headed for a life of fear and grinding poverty. It ain’t justice, but it is _karma_. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/228 "2013-07-14T18:18:12Z")
Books and talk shows, almost certainly. Probably speaking engagements. The notoriety that makes him effectively unemployable also makes him a celebrity. Rather sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/229 "2013-07-14T18:22:27Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > No, you’re not. You are claiming that someone with no criminal history is a criminal. That is the opposite of judging from their past, it’s (checks forum) making shit up, because you are a disgusting, pathetic excuse for a human being, who can’t accept that you are a fool, and that others know better than you. The others, in this case, being the police and other authorities that determined that Zimmerman had no case to answer in any of those historical events. It’s pretty clear that Zim isn’t the only one with anger management issues. When he goes to jail again, you can buy me lunch. ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/230 "2013-07-14T18:26:54Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > He’d be welcome to, if he can get a visa. Any reason Zimmerman shouldn’t be able to get a visa? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/231 "2013-07-14T18:27:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > His employable skill set is rather limited. > > Which brings me to wonder, how is he going to make a living? Write a book? Talk shows? I know he had a legal defense fund, anything left? > > Might well be headed for a life of fear and grinding poverty. It ain’t justice, but it is _karma_. I’m betting he gets a long list of job offers and options. All he needs is one job that’s out of the public eye and he’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/232 "2013-07-14T18:31:13Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > Any reason Zimmerman shouldn’t be able to get a visa? Not sure what skills he has. He’d presumably be welcome as a tourist. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/233 "2013-07-14T18:33:36Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Not sure what skills he has. He’d presumably be welcome as a tourist. Until the first violent confrontation with police or private citizens. Perhaps he’ll take advantage of his celebrity status, get a new girlfriend, and then beat her up. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/234 "2013-07-14T18:35:58Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Until the first violent confrontation with police or private citizens. > > Perhaps he’ll take advantage of his celebrity status, get a new girlfriend, and then beat her up. I imagine he’s quite happy with his (unbeaten) wife. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/235 "2013-07-14T18:44:26Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Did I just hear Jesse Jackson correctly? Did he really say that Trayon didn’t get justice because there was an all white prosecution team, an all white defense team, and a jury panel with no blacks on it? Did he just say that Trayvon didn’t get justice because he did not have a _jury of his peers_? The victim gets a jury of his peers too? I never knew that. Does he really believe Zimmerman was found not guilty simply because Trayvon was black? Do you have a link to this? Not challenging, just asking. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/236 "2013-07-14T19:00:38Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > There was no murder. It was a justified, legal killing, of someone who, for whatever reason, went out of his way to attack the man who ended up killing him. No, we don’t know that Martin “went out if his way to attack” Zimmerman or that he even attacked him. We know they had a fight and at one point Martin seemed to have the upper hand, but no evidence, other than word of paranoid, racist liar with a history of violence, that Trayvon “attacked” him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/237 "2013-07-14T19:01:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > His employable skill set is rather limited. In the world of Reality TV, I don’t think so. > [@](#): > > Which brings me to wonder, how is he going to make a living? Write a book? Talk shows? I know he had a legal defense fund, anything left? > > Might well be headed for a life of fear and grinding poverty. It ain’t justice, but it is _karma_. I have no doubt he’ll do just fine. The e-book will be available on [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) next week, if not sooner. It’s probably already written, and all they have to do is choose which ending to use. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/238 "2013-07-14T19:04:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > His employable skill set is rather limited. > > Which brings me to wonder, how is he going to make a living? Write a book? Talk shows? I know he had a legal defense fund, anything left? > > Might well be headed for a life of fear and grinding poverty. It ain’t justice, but it is _karma_. He’ll probably write a book and try and make some money as a right-wing hero. The fact that he’s Hispanic will also help so that he can give lots of right-wing racists an imaginary brown friend to prove they’re not bigots a la the Godfather’s Pizza guy. William Calley did vastly worse and he made money. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/239 "2013-07-14T19:10:41Z")
That little bitch will land on his feet. Look how many right wing assholes want to buy him a beer right now, I’m sure every NRA/KKK meeting could pass the hat right now and sent a grand his way with no problem. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419/240 "2013-07-14T19:10:50Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > He’ll probably write a book and try and make some money as a right-wing hero. The fact that he’s Hispanic will also help so that he can give lots of right-wing racists an imaginary brown friend to prove they’re not bigots a la the Godfather’s Pizza guy. > > William Calley did vastly worse and he made money. Yeah, he’ll do just fine financially. He’s a hero to substantial part of the US population. He got away with doing what they wish they could do. They’ll pay his way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-the-zimmerman-trial-circus/663419.md?page=13)