# Pitting today's bully. Not Mitt Romney. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 12, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663 "2012-05-12T01:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/41 "2012-05-12T21:25:33Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Hardly. The RCC is notoriously patriarchal. Women are in its viewpoint second class citizens, and taught to stay that way. Ah, Tweedle Dee comes in to echo Tweedle Dum. Right on cue. > [@saoirse](#): > > When I was in Catholic High School, we got the best sex ed, including birth control, in the county. The public schools had to deal with all the outraged parents, but since we had a waiting list, the Vice Principal for curriculum could tell them to go to hell. Me, too. One year of Catholic High School and the teacher (a priest) spent an entire week showing us every sex ed film he could get his hands on. It was cool the first day, but we were more than done by Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/42 "2012-05-12T21:58:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Me, too. One year of Catholic High School and the teacher (a priest) spent an entire week showing us every sex ed film he could get his hands on. It was cool the first day, but we were more than done by Friday. He should have totally taken this direction with it: Monday show a cool sex ed film. Tuesday, Weds, progressively less interesting. Thursday, downright dry and painfully dull human biology lesson. At the end of the class, announce that you can opt out of Friday’s class and spend it outside, because it’s likely to be even less interesting and he knows you’re all bored with this stuff. Friday. Lock the doors (no, you’re not coming in late). Show porn. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/43 "2012-05-13T02:41:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Cite? **Kimstu’s** > The RCC is “fundamentally opposed” to teaching “self esteem” to girls? You’re an idiot. > > You’re the kind of idiot that makes an atheist, like me (and **Kimstu** ), defend the RCC. You’re the kind of poster here that makes fighting ignorance a full time job. I’m not trying to step into the middle of a flame war but the RCC has a history of being hugely patriarchal. How many female priests are there? What is their position on birth control? It has embraced virgin worship which is entirely patriarchal. A woman that is not a virgin is less than the ideal. Why does the RCC insist that the mother of Jesus was a virgin? The RCC wants women to be chaste and modest but women have no say in the authority of the church. The recent attack on the nuns is very demonstrative of this attitude. Talk to Catholic women who try to cling to their faith or women raised Catholic that have given up on the RCC. They are very offended by the patriarchy. Some try to cling to their faith but many have tuned out church authority. That is proven by the practice of birth control by women who identify as Catholic. The RCC isn’t building new churches and schools while they continue to close them on a wholesale basis. Holy Week used to fill the Catholic churches, now they can’t get anybody to attend. When mom doesn’t go to church the rest of the family doesn’t either. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/44 "2012-05-13T03:49:06Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How are they supposed to know if they can actively support an organization without investigating whether or not it violates any of the important religious doctrines the church holds? And you can’t hold up the Girl Scouts as being immune to investigations because, what could possibly be wrong with the Girl Scouts? If the GS want the support of the RCC, then they need to abide by its wishes. Just like everyone else. No investigation is needed. The organizations named are very public and open about what they do. Their services are already known, which is why the RCC began this investigation. They should have kept their mouths shut and let the parishes choose their own sponsors ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/45 "2012-05-14T17:32:19Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > No investigation is needed. The organizations named are very public and open about what they do. Their services are already known, which is why the RCC began this investigation. They should have kept their mouths shut and let the parishes choose their own sponsors That would have made more sense. There was no reason for any “investigation” because it is all out in the open and was not being hidden at all, and there was no reason for the heavy handed approach they came up with. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/46 "2012-05-14T17:38:27Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Damn! I just created an [Abortion Merit Badge](http://www.flickr.com/photos/12544059@N03/7180193432/in/photostream), and now they probably won’t use it. ☹ Well, not if you’re just going to put it on Flickr, they won’t. You gotta at least offer it on CafePress. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/47 "2012-05-14T17:43:21Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Hardly. The RCC is notoriously patriarchal. Women are in its viewpoint second class citizens, and taught to stay that way. To the extent that the RCC perceives her communicants in political terms, I think she sees them more as _subjects_ than as _citizens_. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663/48 "2012-05-14T17:53:21Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > I’d like to see the Catholic bishops take on the NRA for their stance assault rifles, cop killing bullets and facilitating the Mexican drug war instead of putting the microscope to the Girl Scouts. Man-up bishops, but I suppose that is impossible. Yeah, right after PETA starts hassling leather bikers instead of fur-wearing old ladies. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-todays-bully-not-mitt-romney/621663.md?page=2)