# Pitting Traitorous Black Male Trump Supporters **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 8, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929 "2024-11-08T13:31:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/1 "2024-11-08T13:31:39Z")
Trump and his MAGA army hate minority groups, and that includes YOU idiots named in the thread title. They want to get rid of federally funded pre-kindergarten, which strongly aids the poorer minority parents in getting their kids into a good environment and off to a good start. You have elected a force that wants to attack diversity, education, immigration, and minority rights. You were instrumental in electing Trump either by not voting at all or for actually voting for him! You chose him over an educated, intelligent, compassionate human being, a Black sister who represents a group that champions all of the things that MAGA deplores. Now you will get what you wished for, and I can only ardently hope that it puts face down in the dirt, dirt that is soaked in your tears and regrets. I pit you. I spit on you. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/2 "2024-11-08T15:05:06Z")
Sure, has to be their fault Trump was re-elected. The vast majority of Trump voters who don’t fit that category couldn’t have had anything to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/3 "2024-11-08T15:08:50Z")
Never claimed that. Why you would even post that comment is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/4 "2024-11-08T15:11:11Z")
As far as I can tell a _lot_ of the people voted for Trump are among the groups he’ll screw over or target for persecution. And they’ll be blindsided when the leopards eat their face, _again._ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/5 "2024-11-08T15:15:23Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > the groups he’ll screw over or target for persecution. Which is basically everyone. Donald Trump only gives a shit about Donald Trump; he’ll happily throw his relatives under the proverbial bus if necessary. Anyone else seeing a benefit from his administrations is purely coincidental. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/6 "2024-11-08T15:30:54Z")
[![](https://i.imgflip.com/99pdzk.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/99pdzk.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/7 "2024-11-08T15:38:25Z")
Well obviously they don’t believe that they’re “traitors”, because they simply don’t buy into the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/8 "2024-11-08T15:40:20Z")
And fuck all the Keiths, Kenneths, Karens and Kristens for not voting for Kamala based the similarity I consider most important! ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/9 "2024-11-08T15:45:09Z")
First off, I despise Trump as much as anyone else. That being said, the problem with the “traitor” label is - it again assumes that nonwhite voters are _obligated_ to vote Democratic, kind of like Biden’s “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black” comment. As if the default nonwhite vote must go to the Ds, like the Ds have a contract awarding them such votes and any voting for Trump is a breach of contract. Black voters are hit just as badly by inflation, pocketbook issues, can be socially conservative or disgruntled with identity politics as much as anyone else. You can argue that Trump would make the economy worse, and I fully agree. But the Ds are not entitled to their vote by contract, nor is it “treason” for them to vote R. By this logic, is it “treason” if, say, white Baptists in the South vote for Kamala instead of Trump? There even tends to be this 'splaining by some white progressives to nonwhite voters - not sure if it could be called whitesplaining or whatnot - that has an attitude of “We know better than you what is good for you.” ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/10 "2024-11-08T15:46:32Z")
You wrote the thread title. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/11 "2024-11-08T15:51:53Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > But the Ds are not entitled to their vote by contract, nor is it “treason” for them to vote R. Rather than getting sidetracked by a trivial argument about semantics, I’ll just say that, in the end, a person is what he votes for. It indicates an acceptance of who and what that person is and of what he intends to do. That’s why I unfriended on line and distanced myself IRL from anyone who I know supports him. To me, they are spiritually insufficient as human beings. What others think and do is up to them. In the end, history will be the judge. In twenty years, the minorities that have supported Trump will see the results of their actions. I think they will sorely regret them. Maybe they won’t. Time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/12 "2024-11-08T15:52:51Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > That being said, the problem with the “traitor” label is - it again assumes that nonwhite voters are _obligated_ to vote Democratic, kind of like Biden’s “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black” comment. As if the default nonwhite vote must go to the Ds, like the Ds have a contract awarding them such votes and any voting for Trump is a breach of contract. No; it’s just suicidally stupid. I wouldn’t have used that particular word, because they stabbed _themselves_ in the back along with the rest of the black population. It _is_ however massively self destructive; like Jews voting for Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/13 "2024-11-08T15:55:54Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > First off, I despise Trump as much as anyone else. That’s a pretty high bar. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/14 "2024-11-08T15:59:37Z")
The situation reminds me of the brexit vote here in the UK. Many editorials went out on how we should have taken voter’s misapprehensions based on disinformation and ignorance seriously. But almost immediately, the people that promulgated the lies admitted they weren’t true, and brexit voters were experiencing buyer’s remorse. Brits living on the continent were stunned _stunned_ to find they no longer had the right to stay. Of course, this will all take longer in this case; we have to wait a couple months for Trump to take power, and his acolytes will never admit anything was a lie. But the buyer’s remorse will be real. In the meantime I don’t think the right approach for Democrats is to act as though “migrant crime wave” and “no FEMA support after the hurricane” were legitimate. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/15 "2024-11-08T16:03:52Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Including people living in Europe who were stunned _stunned_ to find they no longer have indefinite right to stay. Point of information: Many of the Brits living on the Continent full-time weren’t eligible to vote in the referendum, then got massively screwed by the result. But there were certainly a lot of those who had second homes there that they’ve had to sell, that voted for Brexit because they’re fucking idiots… > [@Mijin](#): > > But the buyer’s remorse will be real. But they’ll place the blame elsewhere, as they always do. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/16 "2024-11-08T16:04:22Z")
Your insistence that blacks _ **must** _ vote or think a certain way is incredibly insulting to blacks. A strong argument can be made that it’s even racist. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/17 "2024-11-08T16:05:47Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > In the meantime I don’t think the right approach for Democrats is to act as though “migrant crime wave” Migrant crime wave is not true. Massively overloaded Asylum system leading to 2 million people waiting to be processed is. Inflation is a much tougher message, but when someone is struggling economically “I did a great job, actually” is not a good message. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/18 "2024-11-08T16:07:21Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Your insistence that blacks _ **must** _ vote or think a certain way is incredibly insulting to blacks. A strong argument can be made that it’s even racist. No, it’s just pointing out the obvious, like pointing out that you shouldn’t set yourself on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/19 "2024-11-08T16:07:54Z")
Yeah I’d agree that “traitor” is not the word I would use. It was fuckdumb to vote for Trump, against their own interest…but that’s true of almost everyone that voted for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929/20 "2024-11-08T16:10:32Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It _is_ however massively self destructive; like Jews voting for Hitler. It’s more like blacks voting for Jefferson Davis, although even that’s a stretch. Trump isn’t about to ship black people to death camps. He’s not even about to enslave them. He IS eroding our democratic norms, and enabling racism. Those are bad things, very bad. But they’re not Hitler bad. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-traitorous-black-male-trump-supporters/1009929.md?page=2)