# Pitting UltraVires **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/221 "2020-03-28T04:23:30Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I had no idea this thread was for **UltraVires**. I figured he’s too idiotic to waste opening a new thread on, so I’ll just add this here: > > **UltraVires** isn’t just an idiotic parrot of stupid ideas, he also is either too cowardly or too dense to defend the shit he spews. > > _Scratch that, let me try again._ > > … he is BOTH too cowardly AND too stupid to defend the stupidity he spews. > > [In this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=889708), [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=888543), and now in [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=891601&page=3), he simply stops posting when he’s asked questions or his points get refuted. I’m sure once could have been accident, twice maybe he’s forgetful, but now it certainly seems like anytime his feet are held to the fire, he simply runs away. > > TLDR: He’s not just an idiot, he’s a coward and an idiot. Oh yeah. That’s a recurring pattern. He posts some dumb ass shit. A bunch of people take the time to show that he is unquestionably factually wrong. He slinks away without a word. And then… He posts that same dumb ass shit in a different thread three months later. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/222 "2020-03-28T05:07:24Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Look who completely missed the point about social distancing among certain public figures.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22195351&postcount=1061) Yeah. I couldn’t even respond. How do you respond to somebody who clearly does not want to understand the situation? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/223 "2020-03-28T08:05:17Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Yeah. I couldn’t even respond. How do you respond to somebody who clearly does not want to understand the situation? Are you asksing about UltraVires or Trump and his supporters? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/224 "2020-03-29T11:32:06Z")
In a thread about a company that plans on taking it’s employees’ stimulus checks, WVDL proves [he has an evil side](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22217271&postcount=19). > [@Austin company looking to dock paychecks by amount of stimulus checks.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/austin-company-looking-to-dock-paychecks-by-amount-of-stimulus-checks/850516/19): > > It sounds to me like this company is seeing the economy tank and is taking steps to save these employees’ jobs instead of laying them off. But for some reason people want their heads on pikes for doing it. Also completely ignores that the company is planning to take half of the dependents’ checks as well. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/225 "2020-03-29T12:09:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > WVDL I swear I looked at this and automatically read it as “UltraVires”. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/226 "2020-04-15T11:08:24Z")
I’ve been following this thread over in Great Debates started by our favorite Oh My God is this guy really a lawyer. It’s actually been kind of a fun theoretical discussion. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=893437](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=893437) But it appears that some unfortunate, although guilty as hell, defendant has actually hired our guy. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22230476&postcount=2](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22230476&postcount=2) This is probably the most bummed out I’ve been about the pandemic lockdown yet. Because I really want to get in my car and drive to god-forsaken West Virginia just to hear UltraVires make this argument in a courtroom in front of a judge. Which, from his response to me in the thread, sounds like something he’s really intending to do. IANAL, but I’m pretty sure judges really hate having their time wasted with stupid shit and smart-ass stupid lawyers that’ve think they’ve conjured up some legal loophole that invalidates standard procedure in some run of the mill low-life criminal case. Like arguing that an undercover drug buy was unconstitutional because the drug dealer had told some people “snitches” weren’t welcome on his premises. And he intends to call those people that knew the drug dealer didn’t like snitches as witnesses. Gotcha, I guess. I just hope that -for the sake of the criminal- that the judge laughs at him instead of throwing the book at his client out of spite. Dealing drugs may not have been the biggest mistake this dude made. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/227 "2020-04-16T16:50:59Z")
Is this the thread where we discuss **UltraVirus**? Every single syllable that clod pulls out of his rectum makes me sick. He didn’t use to be this bad, I think. I suppose he’s now trying to make up for the loss of his friend **Ditka**? (Virus pretends to be a lawyer; what occupation did Ditka pretend to?) Recently I learned from the Mods that lying is fine, but we can’t call attention to the lies. Political tripe is OK as long as you avoid invective or certain keywords, but we can’t call attention to the political tripe. So, if **Shodan** was feeling lonely on my _Ignore_ List he has company now. **UltraVirus** wins — I’m _Ignoring_ him. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/228 "2020-04-16T17:25:28Z")
There is no way, _no way_, that guy is a lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/229 "2020-04-16T17:25:38Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Is this the thread where we discuss **UltraVirus**? Every single syllable that clod pulls out of his rectum makes me sick. He didn’t use to be this bad, I think. I suppose he’s now trying to make up for the loss of his friend **Ditka**? (Virus pretends to be a lawyer; what occupation did Ditka pretend to?) > > Recently I learned from the Mods that lying is fine, but we can’t call attention to the lies. Political tripe is OK as long as you avoid invective or certain keywords, but we can’t call attention to the political tripe. > > So, if **Shodan** was feeling lonely on my _Ignore_ List he has company now. **UltraVirus** wins — I’m _Ignoring_ him. I believe Shodan and Ditka are both Nuclear Rocket Physicists with multiple doctorates. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/230 "2020-04-16T17:30:35Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > There is no way, _no way_, that guy is a lawyer. You know what they call the guy who graduates dead last in his medical school class, right? ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/231 "2020-04-16T17:59:16Z")
Esquire? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/232 "2020-04-16T23:15:00Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > You know what they call the guy who graduates dead last in his medical school class, right? He still has to pass. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/233 "2020-04-17T13:19:56Z")
FWIW, I’ll guess the guy really is a lawyer. Doesn’t a law degree mostly just require memorization unlike a real doctorate? Many of these Trumpist turds do have 100+ IQs (which makes the fact of their political views even more repulsive); and **Virus** would certainly have been happy to do any cheating or ass-licking required. Also, don’t we know that he defends low-level drug scum too cheap to hire a competent lawyer? That sounds like **Virus**. If he were lying, I think he’d make himself a $2000/hour lawyer helping big-time bankers prey on the working class. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/234 "2020-04-17T17:16:34Z")
WVDL: ↑↑↓↓←→←→BA. Judge: What? WVDL: The defense rests. FWIW, we know he’s really a (very dumb) lawyer because he has doxxed himself on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/235 "2020-04-17T17:41:30Z")
I tend to assume he’s actually a lawyer, too. But not knowing about emergency powers of the state during a crisis did make me wonder. Not that he didn’t know, but that he didn’t think to look it up before commenting. That’s what I expect from lawyers here when talking about the law. They have the ability to look things up, so why wouldn’t they before commenting on a subject they would definitely want to get right? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/236 "2020-04-17T18:04:49Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > You know what they call the guy who graduates dead last in his medical school class, right? How can you tell the guy who graduated dead last in his law school? He’s hunting clients in the lobby outside traffic court. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/237 "2020-04-17T19:05:20Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > How can you tell the guy who graduated dead last in his law school? He’s hunting clients in the lobby outside traffic court. The “smart” ones get copies of traffic accident reports from law enforcement and mass-mail ads to them. Saves gas and shoe leather. \*I got just such a solicitation after a fender-bender awhile back. ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_Elliot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jane_elliot/32/6166_2.png) [@Jane\_Elliot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/238 "2020-04-18T13:00:02Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The “smart” ones get copies of traffic accident reports from law enforcement and mass-mail ads to them. Saves gas and shoe leather. > > \*I got just such a solicitation after a fender-bender awhile back. This was my first duty when I got hired by the firm I work for. I sent out those letters. If you are doing this kind of thing in person, that means you have a lot of spare time and are desperate for clients. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/239 "2020-04-18T18:55:57Z")
Back in 2014, after an inattentive driver killed my father, his death was not officially released until a Monday morning, as he died late on a Saturday afternoon. On Tuesday, when family was at my mom’s house, a FedEx truck pulled up and deliveread a package that said “Legal Documents” It was from a law office in a city three hours away, and was a book titled “Winning a Lawsuit With Dignity”. Those ambulance chasers must have had some kind of alert system to get it to us so fast. I sent them back a note that was…kind of ugly. It included phrases like “scum of the earth” and “assholes” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/240 "2020-04-18T19:17:38Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Back in 2014, after an inattentive driver killed my father, his death was not officially released until a Monday morning, as he died late on a Saturday afternoon. On Tuesday, when family was at my mom’s house, a FedEx truck pulled up and deliveread a package that said “Legal Documents” It was from a law office in a city three hours away, and was a book titled “Winning a Lawsuit With Dignity”. Those ambulance chasers must have had some kind of alert system to get it to us so fast. > > I sent them back a note that was…kind of ugly. It included phrases like “scum of the earth” and “assholes” Just so you know, the vast majority of plaintiff attorneys feel the same way. They give the rest of us a bad name. It’s offensive and should be considered unethical. (same with those billboards…) The Bar Associations usually lose to “free speech” when they try to regulate such activities. IMO, there is an inverse relationship between the quality of the law firm and the amount they spend on direct marketing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=13)