# Pitting UltraVires

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/281 "2020-06-25T14:06:55Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Lol, hadn’t even noticed that yet.

That is hilarious. It’s like his new signature following him from one stupid post to another.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/282 "2020-06-25T16:09:03Z")

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And he’s still going at it.

> [@The great NASCAR Noose Incident fizzles out](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-nascar-noose-incident-fizzles-out/912577/23):
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> That’s a bit hyperbolic. It was a rope in a garage. You can go to the garage and look at it.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/283 "2020-06-25T16:36:09Z")

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And his new unofficial sig continues to follow him around. This is delightful. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/284 "2020-06-25T17:12:02Z")

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Okay… that’s fucking hilarious. How/why is it doing that?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/285 "2020-06-25T17:14:32Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Okay… that’s fucking hilarious. How/why is it doing that?&nbsp;

When you post a link to his stupid post in a different thread than the one you’re in, the system puts that link after the stupid post.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/286 "2020-06-25T17:17:49Z")

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Okay, so if… and I’m not saying we should 😏… but _if_ someone were to link to this thread every time UV posts…

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/287 "2020-06-25T17:19:23Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Okay, so if… and I’m not saying we should 😏… but _if_ someone were to link to this thread every time UV posts…&nbsp;

Nah, save it for the stupid ones. Why cheapen a good thing? 😀

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/288 "2020-06-25T17:38:48Z")

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So, we should link to it every time UV posts, then? Because “non-stupid UV post“ is an oxymoron.

Dude’s a freaking idiot. I still want to get to WV to hear our own William Jennings Moron try to convince a judge that a drug bust should be thrown out because his drug dealer client told the informant that he didn’t allow snitches in his house.

And I hope he starts using the women’s room at work just so he can get fired in order to test the recent Supreme Court decision.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/289 "2020-06-25T17:40:31Z")

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\*waves

Not “waives”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/290 "2020-06-25T18:12:46Z")

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You don’t know his marital situation.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/291 "2020-06-25T18:18:20Z")

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No, but I can just imagine.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/292 "2020-06-25T18:49:33Z")

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LHOD destroys UV:

> [@The great NASCAR Noose Incident fizzles out](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-nascar-noose-incident-fizzles-out/912577/34):
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> > [@The great NASCAR Noose Incident fizzles out](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-nascar-noose-incident-fizzles-out/912577/17):
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> > He doesn’t even look at it, but causes an FBI investigation.
> > 
> > > …
> > > 
> > > To make such a wild allegation based on the evidence is irresponsible
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> Given your fury at people who make wild allegations based on flimsy evidence, what would be an appropriate consequence for your wild, irresponsible allegation about Wallace?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/293 "2020-06-26T00:19:33Z")

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Could somebody explain to me what the fuck a “cleanosexual” is? Is that like a metrosexual?

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/294 "2020-06-26T01:54:17Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Could somebody explain to me what the fuck a “cleanosexual” is? Is that like a metrosexual?

It has already been posted in this thread, but I’ll post it again because any paraphrase sounds like a ridiculous exaggeration.

> [@What is the argument against "separate but equal" civil unions?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-argument-against-separate-but-equal-civil-unions/704764/57):
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> Why does any of this matter? We all agree that we are throwing the traditional meaning of the word “marriage” out the window, so why do your objections stand in the way of “progress”?
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> Plus, as we learned from Loving v. Virginia, marriage is a fundamental right. Why would you deny this woman legal recognition of her marriage to the washing machine? What constitutional basis do you have for denying cleanlosexuals their choice of happiness?
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> You are denying cleanlosexuals equal protection under the law.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/295 "2020-06-26T02:07:30Z")

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Someone is agitating for appliance marriage?

flees

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/296 "2020-06-26T02:14:56Z")

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Wow. Didn’t realize somebody could pass the bar without understanding the concept of consent.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/297 "2020-06-26T03:59:34Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Could somebody explain to me what the fuck a “cleanosexual” is? Is that like a metrosexual?

It is a giant “FUCK YOU!” to all those that aren’t heterosexual by equating them with someone who would marry a washing machine.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/298 "2020-06-26T10:19:21Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> > [@Kron](#):
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> > The fact that the new software shows that his statements were linked in the West Virginia’s Dumbest Lawyer thread is… Fucking incredible. No matter any other headaches, that feature makes the move worth it.
> 
> Wow. They’re probably going to want to fix that, but for now it is a beautiful thing.

Not sure if it’s really fixable. If the feature can be turned off, it almost certainly can only be turned off globally, not just for links from the Pit. And in general, it seems like a useful system feature – “someone has linked to, and presumably made comments about, this post in another thread”. The way it’s worked out here is something of a humorous unintended consequence.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Okay, so if… and I’m not saying we should 😏… but _if_ someone were to link to this thread every time UV posts…

We could always do that before (“you have been pitted [linky]”) but what the new system does is the other way around – if you link to a stupid post _from this thread_, then the system automatically adds a link at the end of said stupid post, conveniently entitled “We have a winner for the title of West Virginia’s dumbest lawyer” at the end of the post. I don’t particularly want to sound mean, but when you see this automatically appended at the end of one of UV’s more brilliant posts, like the one about legalizing same-sex marriage being equivalent to a woman marrying a washing machine, the effect is quite wonderful – it’s like the system, possessed of a fairly rudimentary AI, is making an editorial comment to distance itself from the stupidity it is contractually obliged to send to your screen.

Or the stupid post about how a Wisconsin resident helping elect someone in Illinois is exactly equivalent to Russian election meddling. Back in 2008 I really wanted an Obama campaign hat but wasn’t allowed to buy one because it would have constituted a campaign contribution by a non-American and **was against federal law**. But Russians wreaking havoc with US presidential elections is apparently just fine. Perhaps I misunderstand Wisconsin. It may be that Wisconsin is plotting to become a global superpower and assert its global hegemony by undermining western democracies. But AFAIK Wisconsin is mainly plotting to make cheese, and, in the Scott Walker era at least, undermine only its own democracy.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/299 "2020-06-26T13:07:12Z")

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Oh my God. That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on the internet and I read the comments on my newspaper’s website for fun.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/300 "2020-06-26T16:11:20Z")

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Well, I got a warning in the Bubba Wallace thread. Shithead gets to troll his racism but calling him on it is a problem. Oh well. On the plus side it got me to figure out the ignore feature.

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