# Pitting UltraVires **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/621 "2022-04-08T17:07:48Z")
I really liked the ‘stop forcing us to be nice to people or we’ll start a civil war and murder y’all’. 'Cause using force is wrong . . . mostly wrong. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/622 "2022-04-08T20:47:22Z")
Offered with no comment, > [@In this real life sexual assault scenario, who's at fault? (Somewhat graphic language)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-this-real-life-sexual-assault-scenario-whos-at-fault-somewhat-graphic-language/962440/37): > > {…} A sexual encounter, with no blood or broken legs, is assumed to be consensual. {…} ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/623 "2022-04-08T21:36:17Z")
Jesus Christ ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/624 "2022-04-08T21:42:32Z")
Supreme Court justice nominee right here. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/625 "2022-04-09T00:06:40Z")
Fuck that guy. What a profoundly awful person. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/626 "2022-04-09T00:52:32Z")
I just came from the guy-masturbating-on-a-plane thread. And yup. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/627 "2022-04-09T01:31:18Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I just came from the guy-masturbating-on-a-plane thread. Me, too. Came over to check and see if anyone else was sickened by his posting, and the point he was belaboring. Point. Singular. He only had one. And his behavior was really odd. He kept bringing up that same point over and over even when it had nothing to do with what was currently being discussed, or when no one had challenged or even noticed the previous twenty times he’d repeated himself. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/628 "2022-04-09T01:35:42Z")
He seems to be doing it in more than one thread. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/629 "2022-04-09T01:38:56Z")
I have him on ignore. Maybe we should all just stop feeding the troll and let it implode under the weight of its own duplicity? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/630 "2022-04-09T04:16:40Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I backed out when I noticed him asking questions I had already answered (while assuming good faith). Either he was acting in bad faith and only responding to some people, or he has me on ignore. > [@RitterSport](#): > > Yeah, he does the same with me, most of the time. > > I’m out of that thread, I think. At this point, he’s acting in bad faith in that thread. [nods head in fervent agreement] As was so sagaciously said in “Ghostbusters:” > Generally you don’t see that kind of behavior in a major appliance. I don’t know this poster, but bad faith would likely be the best case scenario. Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/631 "2022-04-09T11:24:04Z")
Fitting behavior given the subject of the thread. Has it happened at least four times? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/632 "2022-04-09T14:32:20Z")
His [comment](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/361) about why the Constitution doesn’t require the government to supply an All-star, dream team of attorneys because OJ Simpson can afford one _really_ bothers me in a way that I can’t quite articulate, and can’t quite formulate a response to. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/633 "2022-04-09T14:53:34Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > His [comment](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/361) about why the Constitution doesn’t require the government to supply an All-star, dream team of attorneys because OJ Simpson can afford one _really_ bothers me in a way that I can’t quite articulate, and can’t quite formulate a response to . He’s upset that his clients get shitty representation by a guy who doesn’t believe in many of the fundamental rights of criminal defendants under our Constitution. He also, for some reason, blames the rather liberal Warren court for “draconian” penalties that state and federal legislatures have enacted. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/634 "2022-04-09T15:16:38Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > His [comment](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-is-ketanji-brown-jackson-getting-on-the-supreme-court-or-not/961573/361) about why the Constitution doesn’t require the government to supply an All-star, dream team of attorneys because OJ Simpson can afford one _really_ bothers me in a way that I can’t quite articulate, and can’t quite formulate a response to. Possibly because he has falsely represented the basis for the holding in _Gideon_. It’s not about “rich people” therefore “poor people” but rather substantive access to a fundamental right afforded by the Constitution, particularly in light of the complexity of the legal system. He either knows this and is lying (should be banned), or should be disbarred for negligent (or worse) practice of the law. So he can either practice law or he can post on the SDMB. He can’t do both, and then again maybe he shouldn’t do either. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/635 "2022-04-09T21:52:38Z")
> [@In this real life sexual assault scenario, who's at fault? (Somewhat graphic language)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-this-real-life-sexual-assault-scenario-whos-at-fault-somewhat-graphic-language/962440/37): > > Offered with no comment, > > > [@In this real life sexual assault scenario, who's at fault? (Somewhat graphic language)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-this-real-life-sexual-assault-scenario-whos-at-fault-somewhat-graphic-language/962440/37): > > > > {…} A sexual encounter, with no blood or broken legs, is assumed to be consensual. {…}⁢ And then asking how that could be a problem in ATMB. And, yes, I went ahead and responded. Because I genuinely think he might actually be that clueless, and not have just been trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/636 "2022-04-09T22:11:24Z")
I wonder if the reproductive habits of seahorses would make UltraVires’ head literally explode ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/637 "2022-04-09T23:02:00Z")
Hmm, I wonder if ‘What I meant was…’ works in the courts UV ‘’‘practices’’’ in? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/638 "2022-04-10T02:01:16Z")
I was reluctant to do it, because occasionally UV has useful information in various fields, but after the last 3 days or so of posts, over a multitude of threads, I just can’t take the bullshit anymore. The goalpost moving, the ‘don’t judge me by what I said, you should have known what I meant’ another, the absolute asshat certainty that he and his are perfect, the casual disrespect for anyone else’s feelings or common decency. It’s enough. A well earned ignore to him. For the few that are left that are willing to argue with the shitstain, more power to you. I just hope that the excess of the last 3 days shows that he’s about to flame out into a singularity of such inexcusable shittiness that he gets a well-earned ban. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/639 "2022-04-10T02:16:04Z")
I ignored him a few days ago. He’s my one and only on that list. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/640 "2022-04-10T13:01:00Z")
My understanding, based on the recent spat of ATMB threads, is that he simply rejects the notion that kindness is a virtue. There is absolutely no reason to consider, let alone practice, empathy on these boards. And THAT is the kind interpretation. At this point he’s either a helpless narcissist, an ignorant moron, or a malicious troll. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=33)