# Pitting UltraVires **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/681 "2022-04-23T18:19:07Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > He is a very disingenuous poster. I genuinely don’t know why he’s not gotten that final Warning for trolling and been kicked out. Because what he does isn’t trolling by SDMB standards. He mostly good at avoiding trolling. Remember, I’m the one that tried to suspend him for 30 days for his New Year’s Eve mask complaint. I was shot down immediately. By SDMB standards, that isn’t trolling. * * * I’ll also remind you that stupidity and ignorance are protected on the SDMB. If you remember that little tidbit, it explains a lot. * * * Another one to remember is that holding and expressing unpopular opinions is not against the rules. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/682 "2022-04-23T18:21:30Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Another one to remember is that holding and expressing unpopular opinions is not against the rules. Pineapple belongs on pizza! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/683 "2022-04-23T18:22:59Z")
You know, we have standards. Even in the pit. You’ve got to add bacon and jalapeño to the pineapple. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/684 "2022-04-23T18:29:53Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Pineapple belongs on pizza! Goddammit, I wish I could ban you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/685 "2022-04-23T18:32:30Z")
That might be more about “stupidity and ignorance are protected on the SDMB”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/686 "2022-04-23T19:13:33Z")
Shit. A damn pineapple, bacon, and jalapeño pizza sounds _good_. What’s wrong with me? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/687 "2022-04-23T19:26:41Z")
The addition of bacon and jalapeno makes that pineapple pizza sound _really_ not so weird anymore! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/688 "2022-04-23T19:27:24Z")
Has definitely entered the “I will try that” zone. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/689 "2022-04-23T19:35:27Z")
I’ve never tried that combo with bacon, but I _have_ had a pineapple, pepperoni, and jalapeño pizza before. Was pretty good, IIRC. Bacon sounds better, though. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/690 "2022-04-23T19:39:54Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > He is a very disingenuous poster. I genuinely don’t know why he’s not gotten that final Warning for trolling and been kicked out.⁢ > > Because what he does isn’t trolling by SDMB standards. He mostly good at avoiding trolling. Remember, I’m the one that tried to suspend him for 30 days for his New Year’s Eve mask complaint. I was shot down immediately. By SDMB standards, that isn’t trolling. > > * * * > > I’ll also remind you that stupidity and ignorance are protected on the SDMB. If you remember that little tidbit, it explains a lot. > > * * * > > Another one to remember is that holding and expressing unpopular opinions is not against the rules.⁢ First off, this was an aside mentioned out of frustration, so I don’t want to elaborate too much. But I do wish to make it clear I did not mention anything about stupidity, ignorance, or unpopular opinions. I claimed that he is often disingenuous in ways that seem designed to infuriate. I know determining if someone is trolling is a mod judgement call. But it still seems weird to me that he still gets the benefit of the doubt after his suspension. That hasn’t historically been the case. * * * I also wish to make something clear. But a disclaimer before I do: **I am not accusing you (or anyone else specifically) of believing or claiming otherwise.** Part of my post was discussing bigotry. And I wish to reiterate that **bigotry is not merely an unpopular opinion**. And, when someone has been repeatedly informed, ignorance and stupidity cease to be valid excuses. There is a difference between an ill-informed or unpopular opinion and something that is incompatible with a civil society. I say this simply because a lot of bigots try to hide behind this. They want to treat their arguments like a favorite ice cream flavor or pizza topping. * * * Speaking of which, my opinion on pineapple pizza is that it’s fine. Not amazing, but not bad. The main issue is that the sweetness and somewhat intense tanginess can cover up other flavors or toppings. If the internet “debates” were any indication, it would seem my opinion was the most unpopular opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/691 "2022-04-23T19:57:42Z")
Y’all are making my favorite anchovy and pineapple pizza look mundane by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/692 "2022-04-23T20:00:38Z")
Hawaiian pizza is one of my favorites. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/693 "2022-04-23T20:16:45Z")
Pineapple, sausage and onion! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/694 "2022-04-23T20:31:00Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The addition of bacon and jalapeno makes that pineapple pizza sound _really_ not so weird anymore! It’s great. The thing about pineapple is that it has to be balanced out. This combo gives you: Pineapple, for sweet and acid. Bacon, for fat and salt and smoke. Jalapeno (fresh, not pickled), for spice and a clean veggy flavor It’s like a holy trinity of flavors, with everything helping to round out everything else. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/695 "2022-04-23T20:31:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > A damn pineapple, bacon, and jalapeño pizza sounds _good_ . > > What’s wrong with me? I don’t know. Complete lack of taste? Some kind of weird masochism? A deliberate effort to make yourself hate pizza? Look, pal, a pizza begins with what is basically bread crust, then tomato sauce and cheese. That’s the foundation. In what universe, when you think of pineapple, do you immediately think: gee! – bread, tomato sauce, and cheese would go well with that? Maybe if you’re Jabba the Hutt, in a galaxy far, far away, but not in this one. If I was king and could make laws … ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/696 "2022-04-23T20:50:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Pineapple, for sweet and acid. > Bacon, for fat and salt and smoke. > Jalapeno (fresh, not pickled), for spice and a clean veggy flavor > > It’s like a holy trinity of flavors, with everything helping to round out everything else. I don’t like the taste or texture of any type of jalapeno. I’d prefer almost any _Capsicum_ cultivar to jalapenos, including the bell peppers that pizza places put on their pizzas. They must get them from a place known for growing flavorful varieties or prepare them in a special way because when I put bell peppers that I bought at a grocery store on my pizza, it tastes like nothing but water. But i’d agree that a piquant pepper would add something to the mix. I also like the combination of pineapple and bacon. My preferred combo is pineapple, bacon, and pepperoni. If I could find one of those less-hot habaneros that are only around as hot as a jalapeno, that might be a good addition too, because I like the habaneros texture and flavor, but the strength of its heat distracts from a food’s balance. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/697 "2022-04-23T20:53:22Z")
Aleppo pepper flakes. A little smoky, and a step up in heat from the generic shaker pepper flakes. I find they really balance out the pineapple nicely. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/698 "2022-04-23T22:13:34Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I _have_ had a pineapple, pepperoni, and jalapeño pizza before. Was pretty good, IIRC. Even better as a calzone. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/699 "2022-04-23T22:14:51Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I claimed that he is often disingenuous in ways that seem designed to infuriate. I believe he’s disingenuous in ways that protect his self-image as “not a massive asshole, despite so many people telling him his opinions are those of a massive asshole”, which is infuriating, but not by design. Then again I’ve muted him because his shitty posts are so infuriating, so I could be wrong. And pineapple is always bad. Fruits should not digest humans, it should always be the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/700 "2022-04-23T22:22:45Z")
I’d go with the sweet chilis (bell peppers) myself. I can’t take much capsaicin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=36)