# Pitting UltraVires **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/101 "2018-11-07T01:38:44Z")
Nm duplicate ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/102 "2018-11-07T20:21:29Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I can’t stand the subject of this thread. I find him to be an idiot, a terrible debater, and disingenuous in the extreme. However, I thought he was treated pretty unfairly in that thread. I thought there was an actual interesting question in there (which I posted over there – feel free to call me on it), but the SDMB couldn’t get past his history. > > I guess he’s being treated unfairly there because he’s such an asshole elsewhere, but that thread was still a shitshow for no real reason other than that. …it is a potentially interesting question handled with the sensitivity of a boorish oaf. The thread title gave no indication that the thread was going to be a fairly explicit discussion of sexual assault. In fact, the thread title in fact gives the impression that the subject of the thread is something that is regularly discussed. And when he asks " a finger (or two or three fingers or even a fist) count as an object?" one has to wonder exactly how much pleasure he got when he wrote that sentence. It has nothing to do with his history. Even if I didn’t know who it was who wrote that OP I still would have thought “what sort of arsehole would write this without giving a warning?” ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/103 "2018-11-07T20:29:00Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …it is a potentially interesting question handled with the sensitivity of a boorish oaf. The thread title gave no indication that the thread was going to be a fairly explicit discussion of sexual assault. In fact, the thread title in fact gives the impression that the subject of the thread is something that is regularly discussed. And when he asks " a finger (or two or three fingers or even a fist) count as an object?" one has to wonder exactly how much pleasure he got when he wrote that sentence. > > It has nothing to do with his history. Even if I didn’t know who it was who wrote that OP I still would have thought “what sort of arsehole would write this without giving a warning?” I agree that a \ warning was warranted. I won’t even respond to that thread while I’m not at home. Believe me, I have no love for that guy. It would have been interesting to discuss those nuances, though, in a more objective fashion, even though the actual subject is pretty gross. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/104 "2018-11-26T02:18:13Z")
> [@Mississippi Senator wants "public hanging" ??](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-senator-wants-public-hanging/824398/78): > > Nobody, before this comment, has equated the term “public hanging” with extrajudicial lynchings. The term public hanging has always and forever heretofore meant the legal method of execution conducted in most states in the 19th century. Just doing his thing. Making shit up and not backing down an inch. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/105 "2018-11-26T16:16:05Z")
Keep an eye out for the, “Sure my facts were wrong, but my opinion is still right,” argument in the Cindy Hyde-Smith thread. It’s an **UltraVires** classic. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/106 "2018-11-26T16:28:12Z")
Y’all, I think the door just hit him on the butt. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/107 "2018-11-26T16:44:58Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Y’all, I think the door just hit him on the butt. Wait, what? Can you elaborate? He’s not banned. Did he flounce? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/108 "2018-11-26T16:47:23Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Wait, what? Can you elaborate? He’s not banned. Did he flounce? [Sounds like it here.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21342450&postcount=73) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/109 "2018-11-26T17:08:26Z")
Excellent! I _thought_ I heard fewer fart noises bouncing off the walls of the echo chamber today. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/110 "2018-11-26T21:18:40Z")
Why is it that the stupidest people think that their lack of participation will _hurt_ discussion? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/111 "2018-11-26T22:31:19Z")
“Hey, if we’re not allowed to say dumb racist shit, then I’m going to get THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! Enjoy your non racist- or is that racial- echo chamber!” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/112 "2018-11-26T22:32:14Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Y’all, I think the door just hit him on the butt. Rake handle hit him in the face. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/113 "2018-11-26T22:36:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Rake handle hit him in the face. Only **UltraVires** can prevent forest fires. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/114 "2018-11-26T22:53:58Z")
LOL - his position basically boils down to “You guys just don’t like me saying racist and homophobic stuff just because YOU aren’t racist and homophobic!” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/115 "2018-11-27T00:06:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Only **UltraVires** can prevent forest fires. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/116 "2018-11-27T02:41:02Z")
Smokey the Bear is in the Witness Protection Program. Drinks a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/117 "2018-11-27T06:12:50Z")
How will he practice law? He’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/118 "2018-11-27T13:12:20Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Why is it that the stupidest people think that their lack of participation will _hurt_ discussion? David Dunning and Justin Kruger addressed this quite elegantly. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/119 "2018-12-19T14:43:22Z")
[He’s never heard of the National Guard, either.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21385334&postcount=202) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/120 "2018-12-19T22:12:37Z")
Can we add “unbelievably sexist” to “fucking dumb” on his resume? His comments in the Selective Service thread (“Well, I don’t have a son, but if I did, he would probably be of better use to the army as a GI than my daughter, who would cripple the country with debt if they had to buy her clothing.”, “But if they wanted to come and draft my little girl and make her go out and kill? That would probably break one of her nails.”) are so bad I’m surprised they haven’t drawn a warning. Hopefully, his daughter never sees his embarrassing and demeaning posts. I wonder if he lets her get an education or use the internet – maybe he just pats her little head and tells her she’ll just have to find a husband to keep her. School is for the boys and she shouldn’t worry her pretty little head about it. At this point, he’s practically performance art. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734.md?page=7)