# Pitting UltraVires

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/161 "2019-04-20T00:53:24Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> As long as it’s not Gerard Depardieu. I hate that guy.

Isn’t he a citizen of Russia now?

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/162 "2019-04-20T02:28:27Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I posted this in another thread, but
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> Here’s a hypothetical for you UV. Suppose Justin Trudeau or Angela Merkel made a public speech detailing Trump’s horribleness and urging all good Americans to vote against him.
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> Would that be OK with you? Would it be the same situation if Barack Obama or Elizabeth Warren made the exact same speech?

**UltraVires** doesn’t post in this thread or possibly anywhere in the Pit. In addition to being West Virginia’s dumbest lawyer he is a coward with a tiny tiny baby-like penis (presumably).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/163 "2019-04-20T03:16:31Z")

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He’s Canadian?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/164 "2019-04-20T04:40:16Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’s Canadian?

Wow, you’re a total asshole. Even for an American, you stand out.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/165 "2019-04-20T04:57:09Z")

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I was assuming he meant something much less asshole-ish – though I can’t imagine exactly what – but I’m willing to let him explain himself.

ETA: Wait a minute … there’s also this, from yesterday:

> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, attacking America at our judo chop spots is rubbing up on our biases, suspicions, and mistrust, the grim spectrum from disdain to hatred. Told the Bernie Bros how Hillary cheated them out of supreme power, told white working class guys that black/brown people were coming for their jobs and their daughters.
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> Didn’t say much of anything to rich folks. I mean, sure, preach to the choir but why bother? Oldest trick in the book, really, happened to the Grand Vizier of Akkad (2019 BCE), who was summarily dismissed.

OK, he’s on drugs. Just let it go.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/166 "2019-04-20T05:19:36Z")

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Don’t have to read any, names right up top there, fair warning. Few will know, and fewer will care.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/167 "2019-04-22T03:04:00Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> **UltraVires** doesn’t post in this thread or possibly anywhere in the Pit. In addition to being West Virginia’s dumbest lawyer he is a coward with a tiny tiny baby-like penis (presumably).

This is an aspect of SDMB culture I’ve never understood:

Poster A: “Come to the Pit so I can call you all sorts of rude and vile names!”

Poster B: “I’ll pass, thanks. I come here for my own personal enjoyment, not to be the target of abuse.”

Poster A: “Coward! That just proves everything I was planning on saying!”

Poster B: “Have a nice day!”

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/168 "2019-04-22T04:26:49Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> This is an aspect of SDMB culture I’ve never understood:

Seems like you understand it.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/169 "2019-04-22T08:26:03Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I hope for his sake that the North Carolina Bar doesn’t read the dope

I hope they do.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/170 "2019-04-23T23:07:20Z")

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Does **UltraVires** fuck his dog?

Probably not. But he [sure keeps fuckin’ that chicken](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21605325&postcount=128).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/171 "2019-04-24T00:06:33Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I hope for his sake that the North Carolina Bar doesn’t read the dope

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I hope they do.

Unless there’s some reason to believe that the NC Bar has expanded its jurisdiction to include WV, I gotta wonder: why?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/172 "2019-04-24T00:17:03Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Unless there’s some reason to believe that the NC Bar has expanded its jurisdiction to include WV, I gotta wonder: why?

Prevent him from moving there someday.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/173 "2019-04-24T00:20:44Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Unless there’s some reason to believe that the NC Bar has expanded its jurisdiction to include WV, I gotta wonder: why?

mixed up which Red state he was from:smack:

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/174 "2019-04-24T08:27:50Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> mixed up which Red state he was from:smack:

We should really start calling them brown states. Firstly because they’re primarily occupied by a bunch of brownshirted authoritarian dickbags, and secondly because they’re just kinda shit.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/175 "2019-04-24T08:37:25Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> We should really start calling them brown states. Firstly because they’re primarily occupied by a bunch of brownshirted authoritarian dickbags, and secondly because they’re just kinda shit.

Real shithole counties.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/176 "2019-04-27T01:52:08Z")

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Even his clients think [he’s an idiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21611311&postcount=391).

OK, I’m sure that one isn’t not really his fault, but it made me laugh.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/177 "2019-06-16T15:53:40Z")

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Check out his contributions to [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21700407#post21700407).

This fucker needs to stop lying. He’s not a lawyer - or if he is, he’s obviously full of shit. I really wish we could have some moderator intervention here - “Hey, listen, we know you claim to be a lawyer, so that means either many of your posts here (and definitely the post in that thread) are in blatant bad faith and you know you’re lying about them, or you’re lying about being a lawyer. One or the other has to fucking stop.”

Can anyone here take these claims with good faith? Or are we all just pretending, lest the moderators (who refuse to take even the most _blatantly_ bad-faith bullshit as evidence of trolling, see **Bone** ’s contribution to that thread) smack us down for calling this shit what it is?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/178 "2019-06-16T17:30:23Z")

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West Virginia’s dumbest lawyer is a consistent proponent of following the law unless it’s a law that hurts the current administration.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/179 "2019-06-16T19:09:49Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Check out his contributions to [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21700407#post21700407).

Nice to see D’Asshole being kicked out of there.

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/180 "2019-06-18T06:28:18Z")

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How does someone scream that long and vigorously (or at all) over a dead iguana? A dead human, sure, maybe. A dead iguana?

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