# Pitting UltraVires **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 304
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/304 "2020-06-26T17:04:40Z")
> [@Changing names, removing statues while avoiding 1984-ism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-names-removing-statues-while-avoiding-1984-ism/912444/60): > > It’s too simplistic to say that the North was fighting to free slaves and the South was fighting to keep slaves. That was simply the issue du jour. A lot of people still admire the sacrifice to stick a middle finger in the face of the federal government and that underlying purpose is what was celebrated, and still is celebrated, and it should not be tossed aside for an easy and cheap one-liner that these guys were just all about slavery. “Can’t I admire the balls it took to betray the country for the right to own humans?” --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734)._