# Pitting UltraVires

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734 "2018-09-22T16:05:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-ultravires/821734/418 "2021-07-14T23:57:14Z")

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In the ATMB thread about the Pit, we get a good example of why it is necessary. Apparently, to UltraVile, discussing racism is an “intellectual dodge”.

I’m glad UltraVires hasn’t had to deal with much racism, but to many people it is far more than an intellectual exercise. It is an everyday reality.

Fortunately, the Dope provides us with a place to point out the kind of racist piece of shit UV is.

> [@Most common reason to be Pitted Appears to be Dishonesty?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/30):
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> > [@Most common reason to be Pitted Appears to be Dishonesty?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/28):
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> > I think we also have to consider cases where the Pittee is confronted with things other than dishonesty, and those things cannot be addressed elsewhere. For example - racism. We can say that a statement appears racist, but we cannot tell a poster that they appear racist.
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> This seems to be a common theme in the thread. Why is it not enough to argue that the post is racist (which is an intellectual dodge in and of itself, but that’s a side issue) such that you feel the need to personally attack some random person on the internet who you don’t even know? I mean, you (the general you) just _have_ to tell that motherfucker that he is racist! Just must! It cannot be left unsaid!
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> The anger from some people is astounding. If there is a poster that I find I don’t like, then I just scroll past. It’s good for the blood pressure and you’ll live longer

> [@Most common reason to be Pitted Appears to be Dishonesty?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/31):
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> I think that oversimplifies the issue. If someone is racist, and demonstrates that across several threads, then I would argue that we need a place to confront that person as a community.

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