# Pitting Urbanredneck for making shit up and claiming it's facts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 7, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236 "2020-04-07T00:46:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/41 "2020-05-23T17:36:57Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> And the poster who called him out on his bullshit got the warning. Figures.

There’s no warning in that thread, just a mod note to avoid calling people racist outside of the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/42 "2020-05-23T17:54:35Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> And the poster who called him out on his bullshit got the warning. Figures.

> [@Telemark](#):
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> There’s no warning in that thread, just a mod note to avoid calling people racist outside of the Pit.

The moderator actually said this:

> [@Colibri](#):
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> Dial back the accusations of racism. We can discuss the possible sources of the infection in a country without such accusations.

My interpretation of this note, which does not mention the Pit, is that the discussion had been about a legitimate topic, i.e. whether there is any protective benefit against Covid 19 to living in a 3rd world environment. To discuss such a topic requires discussing such countries, and while that could have been intended as some kind of dog whistle to racist feelings, it was not apparent up to that point.

Granted, the subject of this thread has probably poisoned his own well with a lot of ill-intentioned posts, but that does not automatically make every post of his ill-intentioned. One is right to be suspicious, but some facts ought to be in evidence in that thread to back up such a charge before it is made.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/43 "2020-05-23T18:27:40Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> …Granted, the subject of this thread has probably poisoned his own well…

I’m _trying_ to stay open-minded about the color of his neck.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/44 "2020-05-23T18:43:11Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Never thought I’d see the day.
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> **Regards, Shodan.**

I just wanted to thank you for that… so many of us hoped to see the last of those “Regards”; this one had just the right touch of irony and relief.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/45 "2020-05-24T01:59:58Z")

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I’ve had him pegged as a troll for a while. He’s been on my Ignore list for a while, both him and his sock **Charlie Wayne**.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/46 "2020-05-25T10:07:53Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> This is just making shit up to suit one’s position, world view, or whatever, and using that made-up shit to support one’s argument. So **Urbanredneck** , welcome to your Pitting.

Isn’t he just doing what Trump, and almost every Republican these days, do?

We’re grateful to zoos that we can see giraffes or the courting rituals of monkeys without taking a trip to Africa. Shouldn’t we be grateful to **Mr. Redneck** and his ilk for doing their BMs here so that we can see how Republicans defecate without taking a trip to Crazytown or Flyoverland?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/47 "2020-05-25T14:34:36Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Isn’t he just doing what Trump, and almost every Republican these days, do?

Jeez, I’d forgotten all about this thread.

I’d like to think we hold people to a slightly higher standard than the MSM holds Trumpublicans to.

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> We’re grateful to zoos that we can see giraffes or the courting rituals of monkeys without taking a trip to Africa. Shouldn’t we be grateful to **Mr. Redneck** and his ilk for doing their BMs here so that we can see how Republicans defecate without taking a trip to Crazytown or Flyoverland?

Well, we still have to go to the zoos, which may or may not be open. It’s not like the elephants are in your backyard. (The _real_ ones, not the people whose party uses them as a symbol. The latter **are** in my backyard - this county went something like 58% for Trump.) So yeah, click over to Redstate or somewhere if you want to see the nutcase bullshit coming from the right.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/48 "2020-08-12T21:50:26Z")

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And again

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/49 "2020-09-17T01:16:59Z")

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Today’s pearl from Urbanredneck (pearl it that it is a pretty covering over an intolerable irritant).

> [@Should democrats rethink "defund police" and push for law and order?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-democrats-rethink-defund-police-and-push-for-law-and-order/920677):
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> This has alot to do with the recent ambush of 2 police officers in Los Angeles and the aftermath where protesters on the left showed up at the hospital to cheer and hope the officers die. I’m not going to link because everyone should know about this. There was also a similar police officer shot and killed in North Carolina. In 2019, [48 police were killed in the line of duty.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-and-biden-condemn-shooting-of-los-angeles-county-sheriffs-deputies/2020/09/13/b7b77ca8-f5d9-11ea-be57-d00bb9bc632d_story.html) Now Trump slammed it, of course, and Biden also condemned it. However many people feel what lead to this was the democrat…

In which he once again blames democrats for the actions of every violent person who is associated with the left, and demands sympathy for every cop who is denied the right to tear gas people without oversight. And in classic URN, his argument is once again the classic “Many people say…”. So once again, we PIT you with disgust URN.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/50 "2020-09-17T22:08:58Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> And in classic URN, his argument is once again the classic “Many people say…”.

Are we sure he isn’t $45 in disguise?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/51 "2020-09-17T22:24:09Z")

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I could have sworn I read somewhere that the people chanting “We hope you die” were actually Trump supporters passing themselves off as antifa.

I can’t find the article so I don’t know how much stock one could put to that.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/52 "2020-09-18T01:40:14Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I could have sworn I read somewhere that the people chanting “We hope you die” were actually Trump supporters passing themselves off as antifa.

So many people are saying it? That’s good enough for me. I believe it.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/53 "2020-09-22T18:35:01Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> And in classic URN, his argument is once again the classic “Many people say…”. So once again, we PIT you with disgust URN.

Manny people wonder, and now I ask…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/54 "2020-09-24T15:57:11Z")

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“Something something something totally untrue. What do you folks think about that?” - **urbanredneck**  
“We love to be trolled and will happily accept your bait.” - **the entire fucking SDMB**

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/55 "2020-09-24T16:36:43Z")

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Ha! Yeah, that’s about right. Dance, SDMB, dance!

I’m as guilty as the rest. He’s so dumb that I fall into the trap that maybe I can convince him of something, change his mind, but it never works out. I’ll just ignore his threads from now on.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/56 "2020-09-24T17:56:18Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> “Something something something totally untrue. What do you folks think about that?” - **urbanredneck**  
> “We love to be trolled and will happily accept your bait.” - **the entire fucking SDMB**

To be fair, a garbage, bad-faith OP can still lead to good discussion. Not through any fault of its author.

Sometimes.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/57 "2020-09-24T18:19:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> “Something something something totally untrue. What do you folks think about that?” - **urbanredneck**  
> “We love to be trolled and will happily accept your bait.” - **the entire fucking SDMB**

Ah, but here, we can watch his arguments be dissected and destroyed by literally dozens of intelligent people using _facts_ , and only a few equally brain dead supporters go ‘but . . . .but . . . people say’. Where else other than the SMDB do we get this joy? Elsewhere, providing cites for your argument and facts get you nothing more than accusations of ‘false news’ even if you’re quoting from the other poster’s own side.  
And of course, we have the PIT where we can still enjoy child-like snark at the bad faith poster. So double win.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/58 "2020-09-27T17:25:47Z")

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Also, not everyone who comes across such threads is necessarily a well informed SD regular. It is important to demolish his speculations as a public service. So that when some poor benighted soul finds their way here after searching “Harris not eligible” we can set them straight.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/59 "2020-10-15T21:36:14Z")

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> [@Is the lack of black fathers the true reason for racial disparity?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-lack-of-black-fathers-the-true-reason-for-racial-disparity/923010):
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> [THIS](https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/12/to-truly-reduce-racial-disparities-we-must-acknowledge-black-fathers-matter/) article talks about this issue. Basically if more black children were raised by a married Dad and Mom they would turn out better. They would stay out of trouble with the law and do better in school. Now personally, I know raising kids is much easier with my wife and I. During times when either one of us is gone things get difficult fast. We also have 2 incomes. In comparison with many of my coworkers who are single parents, many hardly have any time to work with their kids. I overhear the…

A thread about absent fathers? I predict that the father of this thread will put in his usual performance - drop his turd and never show up again.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/60 "2020-10-15T21:51:36Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Also, not everyone who comes across such threads is necessarily a well informed SD regular. It is important to demolish his speculations as a public service. So that when some poor benighted soul finds their way here after searching “Harris not eligible” we can set them straight.

I actually hate this rationalization, it’s so paternalistic and smug, supposing that no-one but us SDMB smarties has the good sense to see through the BS that these shit-stirrers post. Oh noes, we has to protect the poor ignorant masses from the corruption of Urbanredneck’s nonsense. Give me a break.

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