# Pitting Urbanredneck for making shit up and claiming it's facts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236 "2020-04-07T00:46:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/61 "2020-10-23T03:08:28Z")
Look whose thread got closed, partly due to suspicion that the OP is trolling. > [@Biden victory: Then Truth and Reconciliation, Then Censorship and Blacklisting, Then... Prisons](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-victory-then-truth-and-reconciliation-then-censorship-and-blacklisting-then-prisons/923619/41): > > Moderating I’m closing this thread for now. It’s getting a lot of reports, and I’m having a hard time it was started in good faith. ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/62 "2020-10-23T03:19:43Z")
I wasnt trolling. I saw this come thru on Facebook and I thought it would make an interesting topic for discussion. About 30 responses in about 3 hours is quite alot. To me this would be an unprecedented act in American history. For all of American history the change from one administration to another has always gone well with photo ops of the next first lady having tea with the current one and the new president shaking hands with the old ones and presidents before that. I think this would be a bad idea going forward. ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/63 "2020-10-23T03:21:20Z")
I’ll admit I dont have alot of time for discussion. Most of the time others make my points anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/64 "2020-10-23T03:24:07Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Most of the time others make my points anyways. I’m not aware of any other posters on this board that are such complete fucking morons that they could adequately substitute in for your addled brain, you fucking imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/65 "2020-10-23T03:26:19Z")
It would be an interesting topic, but you made it about the fictional idea of locking up millions of Americans for supporting Trump, which had nothing to do with the article you linked to. ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/66 "2020-10-23T03:30:19Z")
Ok, fair enough. Should I have just stuck with what Reich said? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/67 "2020-10-23T03:34:48Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Should I have just stuck with what Reich said? Hmmm… that’s a stumper. Should you stick to the facts or make up a tall pile of bullshit? Tough one that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/68 "2020-10-23T03:55:31Z")
Dang! Is that the first time a mod has closed a thread and linked to a Pit thread about a poster? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/69 "2020-10-23T04:48:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Dang! Is that the first time a mod has closed a thread and linked to a Pit thread about a poster?. The mod didn’t link to it. The link was automatically inserted by Discourse because **Skywatcher** linked to the post here. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/70 "2020-10-23T04:50:06Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > I wasnt trolling. I saw this come thru on Facebook and I thought it would make an interesting topic for discussion. About 30 responses in about 3 hours is quite alot. > > To me this would be an unprecedented act in American history. For all of American history the change from one administration to another has always gone well with photo ops of the next first lady having tea with the current one and the new president shaking hands with the old ones and presidents before that. > > I think this would be a bad idea going forward. Dude, the link is from The _Blaze_. That alone means that you need to make a case for it being worthwhile to click on. You didn’t, nobody else did, so speaking for myself, I didn’t bother. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/71 "2020-10-23T09:50:37Z")
Finally read that thread, and am wondering whether **urbanredneck2** has ever experienced similar concerns at any point in the past 4-5 years while watching Donald Trump - the current president - standing in front of crowds of his supporters chanting “Lock Her/Him Up!” or encouraging them to hate and even assault protesters, Democrats and the media? I mean, if we’re going to worry about what the likes of Olbermann, Behar and Random Twitter Guy are saying, how much more should we worry when the person _actually in charge of the federal government_ is repeating and promoting such rhetoric and behavior? It would certainly be helpful to understand what criteria we’re working with here. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/72 "2020-10-23T12:43:06Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > I think this would be a bad idea going forward. Dude. Calling for your opponent in a general election to be imprisoned based on a fake scandal is a bad idea. Doing it two elections in a row is a bad idea. Telling white supremacist thugs to stand by is a bad idea. Refusing to commit to a peaceful transition of power is a bad idea. Start some fucking threads about those bad ideas. But committing to letting the Justice Department, without interference, investigate potential crimes committed by members of a previous administration? That’s a really fucking good idea. Our leaders should be accountable for their actions while in office. We’re not a monarchy. Your thread was a shitfire, because you fundamentally misrepresented what was being said. Don’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/73 "2020-10-23T13:00:54Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > I’ll admit I dont have alot of time for discussion. Most of the time others make my points anyways. (Courtesy of **Whack-a-Mole** in a different thread): [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/5hfYJsQAhl0/maxresdefault.jpg "The Ultimate Insult - May God Have Mercy On Your Soul - Billy Madison (Academic Decathlon)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0) ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/74 "2020-10-23T13:11:40Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Dude, the link is from The _Blaze_. That alone means that you need to make a case for it being worthwhile to click on. You didn’t, nobody else did, so speaking for myself, I didn’t bother. Well what should a person do if a story is not covered by MSM? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/75 "2020-10-23T13:16:36Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Dude, the link is from The _Blaze_. That alone means that you need to make a case for it being worthwhile to click on. You didn’t, nobody else did, so speaking for myself, I didn’t bother. > > Well what should a person do if a story is not covered by MSM? - Take a hint? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/76 "2020-10-23T13:17:18Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Dude, the link is from The _Blaze_. That alone means that you need to make a case for it being worthwhile to click on. You didn’t, nobody else did, so speaking for myself, I didn’t bother. > > Well what should a person do if a story is not covered by MSM? Approach it with extreme skepticism? See if it’s covered by a legitimate media source? Not blindly swallow every bullshit clickbait story spewed forth by the right wing’s propaganda apparatus? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/77 "2020-10-23T13:21:54Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Well what should a person do if a story is not covered by MSM? 1. Spend more than 4 seconds looking - I found 2 MSM articles on it, both highly critical of the idea. 2. Use another 4 seconds to analyze the article you’re reading, and ask yourself "why would this author spend half of the article on random Twitter posts from people with zero connection to Reich or the Democratic Party? (hint: because The Blaze is an inflammatory rag with no qualms in publishing bullshit) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/78 "2020-10-23T13:22:51Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Well what should a person do if a story is not covered by MSM? To spell it out: if only sketchy news sites cover something, it’s probably not true. Basic online literacy is that you never believe anything unless you can find it from multiple reputable sources that have fact checkers. That way any bias gets evened out. BTW, do note that, though Fox blasts the Mainstream Media, they are part of the MSM–they’re just really biased and thus you should check against other MSMs. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/79 "2020-10-23T13:28:51Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Well what should a person do if a story is not covered by MSM? [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Bat_Boy.PNG) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Bat_Boy.PNG) Remember Bat Boy? He got a ton of press, but not much mention in the MSM. Turns out, he wasn’t real. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236/80 "2020-10-23T13:41:04Z")
Why would you tell me this right before Halloween??!! I bet you told your kids there’s no Santa right before Christmas. Bastard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-urbanredneck-for-making-shit-up-and-claiming-its-facts/851236.md?page=5)