# Pitting Westboro Baptist (Probably for the 10th time here)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 23, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095 "2012-07-23T01:21:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/61 "2012-07-25T00:54:31Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> If I ever find myself by their picket line, I think I’ll yell, “How was your day?” and offer them coffee and cookies.

I’ve found myself by them recently. Unfortunately, Kansas City is within an hour’s drive of their compound so they show up quite often to try to get attention.

I saw them as recently as May when they were picketing a Van Halen Concert? (yeah, I guess Eddie sinned when he booted Sammy out).

I had to pass right behind them to get to a crosswalk. Kansas City residents are pretty jaded by them and most of them just ignore the WBC show. One dumb drunken schmuck was trying to debate a WBC male who was about 20 years old. I stopped, gently grabbed his arm and said, “Dude, they don’t even believe what they are saying. They just want to provoke you so you punch them and then they can sue you and the City of KC for infringing on their rights.”

It didn’t seem to register with Schmucko who thought he was winning a great debate. So I told WBC boy that I would testify against him if he got into a fight after harassing this poor drunk man.

Then I happily walked away and headed for the concert.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/62 "2012-07-25T01:58:44Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Will the coffee contain some sort of diuretic?

If ever a situation called for mocha made with chocolate Ex Lax, this is it.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/63 "2012-07-25T02:03:26Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> [Proof that Westboro Baptist Church are trolls](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=642815&highlight=Westboro)
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> [I pit the Westboro Baptist Church](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=319992&highlight=Westboro)
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> [Westboro Baptists to Picket Christina Greene’s Funeral](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=592635&highlight=Westboro)
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> [Getting really tired of the Westboro Baptists fuckers…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=586274&highlight=Westboro)  
> [Westboro Baptist at it again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=527973&highlight=Westboro)  
> [Westboro Baptist pickets a high school play in Michigan](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494171&highlight=Westboro)  
> [Hell to be Remodeled with 10th Circle, aka The Westboro Baptist Suite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=450870&highlight=Westboro)  
> [Westboro Bapt Church makes Freepers look good. . . literally!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=373629&highlight=Westboro)  
> [Westboro Baptist to Picket Mrs King’s Funeral](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357557&highlight=Westboro)  
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> [url=“”]  
> Not probably for the 10th time. Literally.

Lucky guess.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/64 "2012-07-25T06:28:26Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Shooting them would mean that they are considered to be significant.
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> They are counting on somebody as stupid as you are to hit/harm/hurt/kill them in some way. Only if that is done can they or their survivors make some financial gain in lawsuits against you and the government for infringing on or not protecting their right to free speech.
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> Congratulations on your wise ability to act just like they want you to act.

I didn’t realize you believed in zombie reparations.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/65 "2012-07-25T07:47:59Z")

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All this assumption that they fund themselves by milking for and then winning lawsuits: is it actually accurate? As a litigator myself it just seems implausible. Checking wiki, it talks about only two cases, both earning sums far too modest to meet the expenditure of a whole congregation, year on year.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/66 "2012-07-25T11:18:32Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> So Calvinists believe that God will save Calvinists, not because they deserve to be saved, but just because God wants to save them. Everyone else can go to Hell, and good riddance. .

Just as a note, while this is probably what Fred and the Westboro Baptists believe, it’s not what mainstream Calvinism believes. This is a kind of hyper-Calvinism of the worst sort that’s always been outside mainstream Reformed theology and what Calvin himself taught.

In particular, Calvin would have been horrified in first, the notion that God hates anyone, and second, that you could make the statement with certainty that “So-and-So is in Hell”. That latter belief, that humans could earn heaven or be damned to hell because of their actions, or that humans could have certainty of the ultimate fate of a man or woman, Calvin would have condemned as the worst kind of salvation by works theology and the antithesis of his belief. For Calvin, only God could know for sure the ultimate state of a man’s soul, not us ignorant and foolish mortals.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/67 "2012-07-25T14:17:07Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I didn’t realize you believed in zombie reparations.

reading comprehension - try it - use it

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/68 "2012-07-25T16:58:34Z")

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I guess I’m just getting old. I’m just tired of the vast majority having to watch what they say and do, while professional scumbags can do whatever the fuck they please.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/69 "2012-07-31T13:53:50Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I didn’t realize you believed in zombie reparations.

[But the zombies do!](http://www.examiner.com/article/zombies-interrupt-anti-gay-protest-by-westboro-baptist-church)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pitting-westboro-baptist-probably-for-the-10th-time-here/629095/70 "2012-08-31T05:36:29Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I’m not paying attention anymore until Phred dies and then it’ll just be to see if the whole thing falls apart. Shirley seems to be the #2 leader in the clan but would they stand for her being top banana or would one of the other guys try to take over? I don’t know but when the fireworks start, [I’ll be there with popcorn](http://i56.tinypic.com/2vjep05.jpg).

I’m sorry to resurrect this thread, but I’d like to say that this would be the one reality show that I’d watch. Get E! on the phone!

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