# Pixar's Brave...What are your first impressions?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 13, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737 "2012-05-13T00:11:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/21 "2012-05-13T04:57:39Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> The little I’ve seen about it serves only to remind me why I’m generally not a Pixar fan. Too little plot, too much focus on just making it look pretty instead.

I have no idea what these films you speak of are… (besides Cars)

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/22 "2012-05-13T07:08:28Z")

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I’m a big fan of some of the voice actors, so I’ll probably go see it. Kevin McKidd, (Lucius Vorenus from Rome) Robbie Coltrane (Hagrid from Harry Potter) and Billy Connolly (Billy Connolly). I’m not a big Emma Thompson fan, but I freely acknowledge that she’s both competent and experienced, so that doesn’t detract. Curious about the lead, though.

And it looks like the directors are all in-house Pixar talent who’ve worked themselves up to this and I’m curious about how that turns out.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/23 "2012-05-13T07:31:09Z")

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For starters; Pixar trailers are notoriously nonindicative. They are one of the very few companies that don’t spoil half the movie in the first trailer.

And female protagonist? I’m in.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/24 "2012-05-13T08:05:41Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> Curious about the lead, though.

Kelly MacDonald - AKA the hot schoolgirl from _Trainspotting_, the shy maid from _Gosford Park_, the protagonist’s wife from \*No Country for Old Men \*and the one who doesn’t get naked on _Boardwalk Empire_. A fine actress, and a native Glasweigian.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/25 "2012-05-13T12:03:11Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> The more trailers I see for this movie the more I’m not thinking it actually looks that good.
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> The accents (while I am sure will be all kinds of accurate) seem overly annoying and take away from the story which seems kinda overused. It’s the first movie of theirs that actually doesn’t seem all that…original.

Well, I wouldn’t say THAT. Cars, while a really enjoyable movie, is just Brigadoon rewritten. As long as they deal with strong basic themes Pixar does all right.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/26 "2012-05-13T12:25:25Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Between Shrek and How to Train Your Dragon, I’m getting really tired of a Scots accent used for comic effect. Yes, this character can speak English properly, just like my mother and my granddad did - so why is that supposed to be funny?

Oh, please. Try being German. Yes, yes, a German accent = bad guy. Maybe it’s not quite as common as it used to be, but damn.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/27 "2012-05-13T13:29:15Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> It’s an odd coincidence to have another female lead who’s a crack archer, after Hunger Games.

Between those two and Hawkeye in _The Avengers_, it is really the summer of the archer, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/28 "2012-05-13T13:46:57Z")

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I’m sold. The animation looks brilliant. The lead character is obviously a hard-ass. I’ll probably be there opening weekend.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/29 "2012-05-13T20:50:02Z")

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Pixar has built up enough good-faith credit with me that I’d be willing to give it a chance even if the trailers looked terrible. Which they don’t.

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> The lead character is obviously a hard-ass.

Well, I don’t know about that, but I get the impression that copping a feel to find out would be dangerous.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/30 "2012-05-13T20:53:37Z")

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As the father of two young girls I’m sure I’ll see this in the theater. I’ve enjoyed every Pixar movie but I doubt I would have seen them in the theater if I didn’t have kids.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/31 "2012-05-13T21:31:58Z")

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I saw the preview in 3D, and all the red hair was doing something weird in my 3D glasses. It was…_off._ (Hard to describe exactly. Had almost a wobble to it when it moved.) Is there a problem with rendering red in 3D? I noticed red items in The Avengers had something weird going on.

Or maybe I just had defective glasses.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/32 "2012-05-13T23:40:01Z")

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I love the trailer. I don’t go to movies in the theater, so I doubt I’ll be doing that. But I’ll be looking out for it after that.

It gave me pause when I read people in this thread comparing it to UP though. I did not like that movie.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/33 "2012-05-14T00:22:44Z")

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I think I’d go just to watch that girl’s hair. Hair (human or otherwise) used to be a huge bugaboo for 3D rendering, but it looks like they’re finally getting the kinks (ha!) out. Impressive.

OTOH, I hated 3 of the last 5 Pixar movies, so I can’t say I’m chomping at the bit for another.

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> It gave me pause when I read people in this thread comparing it to UP though. I did not like that movie.

It’s probably not going to be much like _UP_, but I am anticipating that there’s a lot more to this movie than the trailers reveal, which is how _UP_ was marketed.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/35 "2012-05-14T01:45:46Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> The little I’ve seen about it serves only to remind me why I’m generally not a Pixar fan. Too little plot, too much focus on just making it look pretty instead.

Are you sure you’re talking about Pixar?

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/36 "2012-05-14T03:47:20Z")

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It looks like a pretty standard plot to me (in storybooks if not in Pixar movies) but I have two daughters who will probably rip me in half if I don’t take them.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/37 "2012-05-14T05:24:14Z")

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One other thing: The landscapes they showed in the first trailers looked absolutely stunning. Seeing those in 3D might be worth the ticket price alone.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/38 "2012-06-22T20:25:02Z")

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Saw _Brave_ at the midnight showing last night and loved it. After the misstep with _Cars 2_, Pixar’s back in the groove again. I saw it flat but from the look of it, Merida’s hair would be another character when seen in 3-D. Yes, it’s from the “I’ve got to be me” mold but since movie plots (hell, _all_ plots) are recycled endlessly, it’s what’s done with it that matters. I did suffer from Dusty Theatre syndrome a couple times during the movie. As seen in the previews, she’s an expert archer but that skill is not what brings down the Big Bad in the end. And _that’s_ all I’m going to say lest we get into spoiler territory.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/39 "2012-06-22T20:34:54Z")

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It would be great if it was good. I love good Pixar.

The marketing left me feeling, frankly, like they were whoring themselves out to their Disney overlords by making a simple Princess movie with a little Pixar dust sprinkled on it. I would like nothing more than to be wrong.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixars-brave-what-are-your-first-impressions/621737/40 "2012-06-22T20:48:43Z")

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Just got out of a matinee showing.

\*\*My general take on it: If you liked _Tangled_, you’ll probably love _Brave_. \*\*

Very similar theme of ostensibly-about-heroic-girl-achieving-great-feats-and-finding-herself-but-really-centered-on-a-mother-daughter-relationship-thing.

Maybe I’m just spoiled by the reliably high quality of Pixar craftsmanship and no longer appreciate the value of a quite good, engaging, watchable movie, because I’m expecting really engrossing originality and/or ingenuity and/or charm.

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