# Pixel depth in human vision?

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**Created:** [February 26, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493 "2010-02-26T05:45:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/1 "2010-02-26T05:45:56Z")

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Barring the astounding computational processing at the front end, and at the visual cortex, and that it’s really an analog process, all of which makes a kind of mockery of this question [;)]…

Were the human eye a simple digital interface, what would its pixel depth be?

I.e., how would God advertise it using the the standard digital camera spec, “The new ‘Eye’: It has _x.x_ megapixels!”?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/2 "2010-02-26T06:18:50Z")

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The number I usually seen thrown about is 576 Megapixels. [Here’s an official looking cite.](http://blogs.nlb.gov.sg/ask/children/901) Obviously, as you note, it’s not quite that simple given the differences between how the eye works and how a digital sensor works, but that’s about as good a number as you’ll get.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/3 "2010-02-26T07:18:03Z")

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As the eye is very far indeed from being a “simple digital interface” any such number is essentially meaningless.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/4 "2010-02-26T13:23:48Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> As the eye is very far indeed from being a “simple digital interface” any such number is essentially meaningless.

I don’t think it’s meaningless at all. [This Wikipedia page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell) on cone cells claims the human eye is equipped with 4.5 million color-sensitive cone cells and 90 million black-and-white-sensitive rod cells.

As has been noted, the visual system is more complex than just a digital camera’s CCD array. The rod/cell count is a useful first approximation, but it’s probably more meaningful to ask about the smallest level of scene detail that the human visual system can detect. **Pulykamell** provided a link; [this page contains the same basic summary, along with far more detail.](http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/eye-resolution.html)

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/5 "2010-02-26T13:53:52Z")

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Plus, you naturally take in more of a field of view than your eye “natively” covers, as your eyes move around lots and your brain pieces it all together.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/6 "2010-02-26T14:03:49Z")

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“Pixel Depth” is not the right term. You mean “Pixel count” (or as it’s currently used - resolution).  
Pixel depth refers to how many bits per pixel each pixel has, and relates to dynamic range and color resolving ability. Studies have shown that the eye can distinguish between 1-7 million colors, implying a pixel depth of 20 - 23 bits.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/7 "2010-02-26T14:15:47Z")

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Cool, I have wondered the same thing and didn’t know how to word the question. This is the reason I read the SDMB. When we can buy tiny 600 megapixel, 3D, 24 bit color streaming video cameras with processors to reconcile dual images, then I may think about giving my eyes a rest.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/8 "2010-02-26T16:17:17Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Cool, I have wondered the same thing and didn’t know how to word the question. This is the reason I read the SDMB. When we can buy tiny 600 megapixel, 3D, 24 bit color streaming video cameras with processors to reconcile dual images, then I may think about giving my eyes a rest.

Well, you have to consider dynamic range, too. The eye’s dynamic range is quite a bit larger than a digital sensor’s, but I don’t have the numbers for it. I’d say we’ve gotten to the point in photography that megapixel count isn’t the most important improvement for sensors, rather improving dynamic range is (or at least is right up there in terms of importance.)

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/9 "2010-02-26T16:23:17Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Cool, I have wondered the same thing and didn’t know how to word the question. This is the reason I read the SDMB. When we can buy tiny 600 megapixel, 3D, 24 bit color streaming video cameras with processors to reconcile dual images, then I may think about giving my eyes a rest.

Good luck finding an adapter cable, though.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/10 "2010-02-26T16:30:02Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I’d say we’ve gotten to the point in photography that megapixel count isn’t the most important improvement for sensors…

It is if you work in the marketing department. But if you actually want to capture good quality digital photos, maybe the first thing to do is [reduce the pixel count a bit](http://petavoxel.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/mp-swindle-example/) from the current state of the art.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/11 "2010-02-26T16:33:39Z")

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> [@Joe Frickin Friday](#):
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> It is if you work in the marketing department. But if you actually want to capture good quality digital photos, maybe the first thing to do is [reduce the pixel count a bit](http://petavoxel.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/mp-swindle-example/) from the current state of the art.

I agree with compact point and shoots. Not so with professional dSLRs, though. High pixel count files from 18MP+ pro cameras look damned good and detail-rich. The only problem is they tend to have worse noise characteristics at higher ISOs due to the smaller photo sites.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/12 "2010-02-26T17:07:53Z")

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Accurately quantifying a human sense such as sight is nearly impossible. While the biological processes of the eye may be well understood, how the brain processes and compiles the information that is collected is speculative at best. The fact is, there is a huge difference between what you perceive as sight and the information your eyes actually collect. The optical properties of the human eye are actually very poor. What you “see” is an amalgam of newly acquired information and memory; **mostly** memory.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/13 "2010-02-26T18:08:55Z")

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As far as just the eye itself, a technical treatise on the subject can be found at:

[http://www.swift.ac.uk/vision.pdf](http://www.swift.ac.uk/vision.pdf)

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/14 "2010-02-26T19:04:44Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> “Pixel Depth” is not the right term. You mean “Pixel count” (or as it’s currently used - resolution).  
> Pixel depth refers to how many bits per pixel each pixel has, and relates to dynamic range and color resolving ability. Studies have shown that the eye can distinguish between 1-7 million colors, implying a pixel depth of 20 - 23 bits.

:smack:

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/15 "2010-02-26T19:12:21Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> As far as just the eye itself, a technical treatise on the subject can be found at:
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> [http://www.swift.ac.uk/vision.pdf](http://www.swift.ac.uk/vision.pdf)

The abstract:  
The Limits of Human Vision  
Michael F. Deering  
Sun Microsystems  
ABSTRACT  
A model of the perception limits of the human visual system is presented, resulting in an estimate of approximately 15 million variable resolution pixels per eye. Assuming a 60 Hz stereo display with a depth complexity of 6, we make the prediction that a rendering rate of approximately ten billion triangles per second is sufficient to saturate the human visual system.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/16 "2010-02-26T21:58:00Z")

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One factor that makes this complicated is that the sensor cells aren’t uniformly distributed on the retina. We can see a lot more detail on something near the center of our visual field than near the edges, and our eyes are constantly moving around to sweep that small high-detail region across a scene, to construct a detailed picture of the entire scene.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixel-depth-in-human-vision/530493/17 "2010-02-27T14:03:11Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> The number I usually seen thrown about is 576 Megapixels.

Man, you gotta love an apples to oranges sorta comparision thats accurate to 3 significant digits 🙂
