# Pixie cuts on straight women. Why God Why?! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389 "2014-09-13T14:25:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/41 "2014-09-13T17:58:29Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Could someone please explain the appeal of pixie cuts on you straight women? Do their stylists REALLY think it looks attractive, and is helpful to their careers? Why would a woman VOLUNTARILY want to look “butch”? What are you going on about? My daughter has the most gorgeous pixie cut and gets compliments everywhere she goes. Straight or gay is irrelevant- she looks gorgeous. Are you always this judgmental? Helpful to their careers? Why- would you dismiss a woman’s accomplishments if she had a pixie cut? How about your future students? They get a C if they have one? ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/42 "2014-09-13T18:00:33Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > Oh yay, another thread where guys try to tell us their preferences are far more important than out own! To be fair, his contempt for lesbians does allow room for _some_ women to ignore his personal preferences in women’s hairstyles. Just as long as the butchies don’t expect to have _careers_ or anything! ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/43 "2014-09-13T18:04:45Z")
In my experience, women who are more androgynous tend to be taken more seriously in the workplace than hyper-feminine women. At least in science/tech fields. I don’t think a pixie cut alone is feminine, androgynous, or masculine, though. There are women who look quite masculine while having long hair, and women who look quite feminine with short hair. I know that for myself, I embraced more feminine attributes after I went to a buzz cut because I was tired of getting mistaken for a dude. I never wore earrings when I had long hair. Now I can’t step out of the house without something dangling on my ears. Regardless, I know my short hair accentuates my androgyny, but that’s fine. I’m an androgynous type of person. If I ever get struck by the desire to attract someone, I’d like to think that I’d attract a person who’d dig this aspect of me, not someone who would have a problem with it. Because that person wouldn’t be a good fit. Every woman I know with short hair has a SO, so obviously having short hair isn’t a serious handicap on the dating scene. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/44 "2014-09-13T18:12:48Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > [This](http://www.hdnewwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/halle-berry-laughing.jpg)is butch? Well, to each their own, but I never saw what the big deal with Halle Berry was until I saw her with long hair, and then I thought, “Wow, yes, she is quite attractive.” I’m not a fan of the pixie cut, but ( ::checks forum:: ) that’s just my humble opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/45 "2014-09-13T18:24:11Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > In my experience, women who are more androgynous tend to be taken more seriously in the workplace than hyper-feminine women. At least in science/tech fields. In my experience of 35 years as a software engineer, the women who are taken seriously are the ones who are good at what they do. I’ve known some absolutely gorgeous software engineers who were highly respected, as well as some very ordinary-looking ones who were. Also, both types who were barely competent, and everywhere in between. Looks definitely affect first impressions more than they should; they help for engineering sales calls and public presentations, etc. But in the trenches, we know who gets stuff done versus who causes problems we have to fix later, and frankly that’s what we really care about. Pixie cuts? Hell yeah. Along with all the other options. I don’t think the OP has a point. I hate to use the phrase “ugly women”, but even “ugly women” can look fine in pixie cuts. They don’t look butch to me, but if a woman wants to look butch, that’s fine too. Unless I consider dating them (which I won’t since I’m married) it doesn’t matter a bit to me. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/46 "2014-09-13T18:25:07Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Well, to each their own, but I never saw what the big deal with Halle Berry was until I saw her with long hair, and then I thought, “Wow, yes, she is quite attractive.” > > I’m not a fan of the pixie cut, but ( ::checks forum:: ) that’s just my humble opinion. I’ve heard people say this before but don’t get how it works. It’s like saying someone looks better in a ski mask. A pixie cut lets someone’s features stand on their own. Berry’s showed her symmetry, proportion, and graceful lines. More hair obscures the elements that make her beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/47 "2014-09-13T18:25:31Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Just sharing my personal aesthetic observation, carry on. You actually expressed shock and something like disgust that a straight woman would want this haircut. > [@Stringbean](#): > > Similarly, I’d rather not shower but once a week. Yet I acquiesce and don’t bitch about how society is holding me back since women don’t like stinkers. Nobody’s bitching. > [@](#): > > If you wanna make yourself ugly with a garish pixie cut be my guest. I’ll just laugh at how stupid you look. If that’s your attitude, hygiene is not your biggest problem. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/48 "2014-09-13T18:29:56Z")
> [@Learjeff](#): > > In my experience of 35 years as a software engineer, the women who are taken seriously are the ones who are good at what they do. I’ve known some absolutely gorgeous software engineers who were highly respected, as well as some very ordinary-looking ones who were. Also, both types who were barely competent, and everywhere in between. > > Looks definitely affect first impressions more than they should; they help for engineering sales calls and public presentations, etc. But in the trenches, we know who gets stuff done versus who causes problems we have to fix later, and frankly that’s what we really care about. I wish I could believe this, but I don’t. I’ve seen way too many women put down for being “girly girl”, despite their qualifications and abilities, because people assume that someone who has nice nails and stylish hair can’t possibly know anything else. Women can be just as guilty of bashing the girly-girls as anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/49 "2014-09-13T18:36:54Z")
Its a world full of different tastes & styles; people wear what works for them and date what works for them too. That said, imagine that romantic moment: The night was perfect, you’ve managed to be together and sleep together the whole night through. The sun is slowly rising, birds are singing, and you want the night to continue into the next day. You have slowly awakened the love of your life to a back rub and are well on your way towards thinking today is really going to REALLY start out right. She’s half awake , but more than half interested and looking for more. You roll a little bit more towards her to get closer only to hear that most romantic of phases: Double spoiler’d, for both your pleasure AND hers… \*\*"OOOOWWWWWWW!!! "OWW! OWW! OWW! GET THE FUCK OFF MY HAIR!!! YOU’RE PULLING MY HAIR!!! FUCK…! FUCK…! FUCK…! Get the FUCK AWAY from me!!! OWW THAT HURT…!"\*\* #InPraiseOfShortHair ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/50 "2014-09-13T18:41:03Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I wish I could believe this, but I don’t. I’ve seen way too many women put down for being “girly girl”, despite their qualifications and abilities, because people assume that someone who has nice nails and stylish hair can’t possibly know anything else. > > Women can be just as guilty of bashing the girly-girls as anyone else. Completely matches my experience in grad school in a research lab. Overly made up (but perfectly acceptable otherwise) women were not considered as serious but the women and men alike. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/51 "2014-09-13T18:42:08Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > 3799-PLEASE tell me it’s her Facebook quote. > > BTW, I never claimed women had an obligation to be attractive to EVERY man. Just sharing my personal aesthetic observation, carry on. Sharing your opinion with a side of judgment. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/52 "2014-09-13T18:44:32Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > I’ve heard people say this before but don’t get how it works. It’s like saying someone looks better in a ski mask. A pixie cut lets someone’s features stand on their own. Berry’s showed her symmetry, proportion, and graceful lines. More hair obscures the elements that make her beautiful. I don’t know how it works; I only know that, for me, it does. If you try to use logic on it, by your logic a bald woman should be more beautiful than one with any hair. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/53 "2014-09-13T19:00:06Z")
Oh good, it’s this thread again. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/54 "2014-09-13T19:01:40Z")
I would just like to say that everyone in this thread is totally wrong except me. I know what’s best, so let me tell you. Pixie cuts are amazing because they add youth with a touch of character edginess. It takes 5-10 years off her face, but lets you know she…uh, “knows what to do.” It’s not the _only_ hot hairstyle, but it’s up there. So there. > [@epbrown01](#): > > A similar thread about guys with long “girly” hair would turn up equally good celebrity examples Bullpoop. There are exactly 0 hot men with long hair, especially “girly” hair. It’s hideous in all cases. > [@Ca3799](#): > > Some guys at school actually got mad at her about it. I wanna actually here how that went down. How does someone “get mad” about it? Did they think they owned her head? > [@even\_sven](#): > > Oh yay, another thread where guys try to tell us their preferences are far more important than out own! He didn’t say that last part. He just told you his preferences. He’s not sitting outside salons with hair strands and glue. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/55 "2014-09-13T19:10:02Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Yep. [Dykes all](https://www.google.com/search?q=pixie+haircuts&rlz=1C1GPEA_enUS315US315&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=5lQUVNbFBom4igK2qYGgBg&ved=0CCkQsAQ). I see a bunch of women who look pretty still despite a stupid haircut. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/56 "2014-09-13T19:10:33Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > I wanna actually here how that went down. How does someone “get mad” about it? Did they think they owned her head? I assume it went down like “why did you change your hair? that sucks, it looked better before. You shouldn’t have done that because now it’s worse…” and so on. That’s not really surprising. I’ve seen the same from women when a man changes his hair, shaves off a beard or otherwise makes a major change to his appearance. As for pixie cuts, I think they – perhaps unsurprisingly – look best on women with more delicate or sharper “elfin” features and complement those well. I’m not as enamored of them on rounder features (though rounder features can be lovely on their own just the same) but however you wanna cut your hair, have at it. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/57 "2014-09-13T19:13:33Z")
I’m still trying to puzzle out why these problems are only for straight women with those cuts. Apparently lesbians with pixie cuts have fine careers. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/58 "2014-09-13T19:16:17Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > I agree MMWV. To me, yeah Halle has a borderline butch cut. The person who I picture when picturing BAD pixie: Jennifer Lawrence. [Oh, really?](http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Lawrence-2.jpg) > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I don’t know how it works; I only know that, for me, it does. If you try to use logic on it, by your logic a bald woman should be more beautiful than one with any hair. [Persis Khambatta.](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1BcLPIl-rXc/UMGgw1zmsNI/AAAAAAAAK74/hZ2CxUZ7Vh0/s640/Persis_Khambatta1.jpg) [Michelle Scarabelli.](http://www.godsebook.org/michele_scarabelli3_533.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/59 "2014-09-13T19:17:22Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I’m still trying to puzzle out why these problems are only for straight women with those cuts. Apparently lesbians with pixie cuts have fine careers. Well, the OP specified looking “butch” so obviously those women all have jobs as welders or alligator ranchers or high school shop teachers where looking “butch” is an asset. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389/60 "2014-09-13T19:18:56Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > [Persis Khambatta.](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1BcLPIl-rXc/UMGgw1zmsNI/AAAAAAAAK74/hZ2CxUZ7Vh0/s640/Persis_Khambatta1.jpg) > > [Michelle Scarabelli.](http://www.godsebook.org/michele_scarabelli3_533.jpg) Personal opinions vary, but I think they’d both look better with a wig. Well, two wigs. I don’t expect them to share. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pixie-cuts-on-straight-women-why-god-why/698389.md?page=4)