# Pizza Guy, WTF?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 11, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539 "2005-11-11T05:32:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/21 "2005-11-11T22:37:08Z")
You know, if we ever have someone sign up with the user name **Pizza Guy** … ---
**Author:** ![ryobserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b2d939/32.png) [@ryobserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryobserver)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/22 "2005-11-11T22:51:43Z")
Took the $20 and walked away? Jerk. I’ve dealt a pizza guy who would try to take $20 for $12 worth of pizza, but at least he had the sense to put on a show - “Oh shoot, they didn’t give me any change!” Sure they didn’t, buddy, especially when this happened more than once. ---
**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/23 "2005-11-11T22:55:00Z")
**groman** , that’s a 43% tip. I’d say that’s excessive. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/24 "2005-11-11T23:00:36Z")
> [@groman](#): > > Well, he was a total ass and if he refuses to give you change when you ask for it he’s stealing. > > However, how is $6 an unreasonable tip on a $14? > > My pizza orders usually wind up being $22-$24 and I usually just give them $30. > > Am I grossly overtipping? My math skills are pretty shitty, but that’s close to fifty percent, I believe. No way I’m tipping someone fifty percent for a pizza delivery. And I usually try to over tip since I have no head for math at all. I’ve tipped a waitress that much before, but that was because the meal itself was only six bucks, and I felt kinda bad to only leave a dollar, so I left 2.50. ---
**Author:** ![groman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@groman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groman)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/25 "2005-11-11T23:01:31Z")
> [@scout1222](#): > > **groman** , that’s a 43% tip. I’d say that’s excessive. Yeah but they get me a pizza under 10 minutes after it was made TO my home and carry it to my door. My logic always has been is that since they come to your door, and there’s usually no delivery charge, you pay for the pizza, then tip what you would usually tip a waiter + what you feel an appropriate cab/courier faire would be between you and the pizza place (because that’s essentially the service that’s being rendered). However, maybe my tipping practices IS what gets pizza to my door faster than it usually comes in a restaurant 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/26 "2005-11-11T23:07:08Z")
**groman** , even if you do generally tip that much, it’s not up to the pizza guy to just ASSUME you were going to, and take that much away. He should have offered change, and THEN you tip whatever you were going to. Did you call his boss, **inkleberry**? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/27 "2005-11-11T23:10:50Z")
> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > I might even mention it to a police officer asking for their advice on whether or not you should file a report with the department about this. File a report for what, exactly? I would call his manager and report him for stealing. You’ll probably get a free pizza out of it, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/28 "2005-11-11T23:55:16Z")
> [@groman](#): > > Yeah but they get me a pizza under 10 minutes after it was made TO my home and carry it to my door. My logic always has been is that since they come to your door, and there’s usually no delivery charge, you pay for the pizza, then tip what you would usually tip a waiter + what you feel an appropriate cab/courier faire would be between you and the pizza place (because that’s essentially the service that’s being rendered). > > However, maybe my tipping practices IS what gets pizza to my door faster than it usually comes in a restaurant 🙂 45 minutes, $2 delivery charge, + ASSUMPTION I would charge 43%. Uh, no. ---
**Author:** ![jasonh300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@jasonh300](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasonh300)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/29 "2005-11-12T03:54:08Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Call the police? That seems a tad extreme. What are you going to tell them, that he looked kind of funny? I hate to say it, but that’s still not a crime. The cops certainly aren’t going to do anything about it. You could construe it as “soliciting a tip” which is illegal in most places. I delivered pizza at night for years and you could never “expect” a tip. You gave them the cash change and dug in your pocket and rattled change around until they either handed you a couple of bucks or just stood there waiting for the change…if that happened, you gave 'em their change–and remembered the non-tipping S.O.B. for the next time they ordered. You should definitely call the manager and complain. That sort of behavior is probably grounds for dismissal. Also, the manager would be an idiot to reveal any information about the person complaining to the employee. ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/30 "2005-11-12T04:08:15Z")
> [@groman](#): > > Yeah but they get me a pizza under 10 minutes after it was made TO my home and carry it to my door. My logic always has been is that since they come to your door, and there’s usually no delivery charge, you pay for the pizza, then tip what you would usually tip a waiter + what you feel an appropriate cab/courier faire would be between you and the pizza place (because that’s essentially the service that’s being rendered). I would think a cab/courier fee would be appropriate if that was the sole source of income for the delivery guy. He is getting paid by the restaurant, right? If so, then it would seem like tipping a hairdresser not only say 15 - 20%, but also 100% cost of their hourly wage. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/31 "2005-11-12T04:42:36Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Call the police? That seems a tad extreme. What are you going to tell them, that he looked kind of funny? I hate to say it, but that’s still not a crime. The cops certainly aren’t going to do anything about it. Re-read the OP. The delivery guy STOLE the money. Pizzaguy owned the OP $6.00. Inkleberry asked for the change, pizza guy gave $2.00 and flat out refused to return the additional $4.00. That’s just plain illegal, no question about it. I would call the police, call the manager, fire off a letter to the corp HQ and not order from them anymore (at least not that branch). It seems petty to call the police over $4.00, especially since more then likely charges won’t be pressed since there really isn’t any way to prove anything, but still, he stole from you and should get more then someone telling him not to do it anymore. A stern talk from a police officer might at least give him a bit of a scare. ---
**Author:** ![rinni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@rinni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rinni)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/32 "2005-11-12T11:58:57Z")
I also tend to think he wanted you to call his cell phone so he’d be able to get your phone number from the caller ID, for whatever reason… That is actually seriously creepy. ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/33 "2005-11-12T12:05:08Z")
> [@groman](#): > > Well, he was a total ass and if he refuses to give you change when you ask for it he’s stealing. > > However, how is $6 an unreasonable tip on a $14? > > My pizza orders usually wind up being $22-$24 and I usually just give them $30. > > Am I grossly overtipping? $6 is a 42% tip on $14. $6-$8 is 25-26% of $30 You’re still over tipping, but not almost half. ---
**Author:** ![MizGrand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@MizGrand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizGrand)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/34 "2005-11-12T14:06:08Z")
The _moment_ Pizza Guy left my house I would’a been on the computer firing off an email to Corporate. There should be absolutely no presumption of a $6 tip or any tip for that matter. For a pizza delivery where I’ve been charged for delivery fees, I give the driver $2 and any coinage left from the total. I also mention to driver that if I hadn’t been charged the fee he/she might have gotten a bigger tip. Thought being that maybe he’ll go back to the store and tell them that. He stole from you, plain and clear. _And you allowed it?_ I would have **INSISTED** on having my money returned and/or threatened to call the store while he was standing there. How does this a-hole ass-u-me that you don’t really need that extra $4 and that you intended to give it to him in the first place? Jerk (him)! You say you have a baby – $4 buys a bunch of jars of food. ---
**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/35 "2005-11-12T15:26:50Z")
I had a run in with a pizza guy a few years back. We ordered a couple of pizzas, breadsticks, and a six pack of soda. The delivery guy came and was VERY put out when we told him that he had forgotten the breadsticks and soda. Even if he isn’t the guy that puts the order together, he should at least **appear** apologetic. But, instead he gives us major attitude and tells us we have to pay for the entire order. From his attitude I figured he may or may not come back and told him I’d only pay for what was delivered. He then freaks out and tells me that there is no way he is making 2 deliveries and only getting one tip. The thing is, if he was nice about it, we would have overtipped. We called the pizza place and were met with solid indifference. Never ordered from there again! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/36 "2005-11-12T16:49:54Z")
> [@groman](#): > > Well, he was a total ass and if he refuses to give you change when you ask for it he’s stealing. > > However, how is $6 an unreasonable tip on a $14? > > My pizza orders usually wind up being $22-$24 and I usually just give them $30. > > Am I grossly overtipping? No such thing as overtipping. If you want to tip the pizza delivery guy $200 every time he comes to your door, knock yourself out. But, as others have said, the issue here is not how much the tip was, or how much it should have been. The issue is that the delivery person should not have made the assumption that he was being tipped the whole amount. He should have got change out, and let the OP make her own decision on the tip. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/37 "2005-11-12T20:57:53Z")
> [@Silver Fire](#): > > File a report for what, exactly? > > I would call his manager and report him for stealing. You’ll probably get a free pizza out of it, anyway. Because his behavior was just odd enough (looking into her HOUSE while asking her to call his cell phone, instead of AT HER) that it makes me think he’s done other things that were worse than ripping off customers with abandon. What if he gets ideas for later rapes or robberies from his delivery routes? That kind of thing isn’t unheard of. Her description of his behavior gave me bad vibes, and that’s why I might mention it (if I were her) _in passing_ (IOW, not officially, just “Hey, what do you make of this, should I make an official report?”) to a police officer to see if I’m incorrect or not. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/38 "2005-11-12T21:49:09Z")
> [@RSSchen](#): > > I also mention to driver that if I hadn’t been charged the fee he/she might have gotten a bigger tip. Thought being that maybe he’ll go back to the store and tell them that. VERY bad idea. He won’t mention it to the store, he’ll only be annoyed because he has NO POWER to change the policy, nor will managment do it because you didn’t tip him better. You’re only guaranteed to get labeled a difficult customer. Just give him the tip and keep your mouth shut. **Zabali** , the guy was acting creepy, but I think calling the pizza place and complaining would suffice. There’s really nothing the police could do-they can’t arrest someone for acting “creepy.” (Although, now, this guy would be a good example for the “creepy” thread)\> ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/39 "2005-11-12T23:27:47Z")
**Guin** , I know they can’t arrest him just for being creepy, and I’m glad of it. (Likely, unless soliciting a tip is illegal there?) I’m wondering if there have been cases of peeping tom behavior, rapes or robberies that could be tied to him though. His behavior was, for lack of a better word vaguely “predatory”. At the least **Inkleberry** should follow up on her complaints to the store about him because he did rip her off. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539/40 "2005-11-13T00:13:16Z")
This will creep you out even more, but I’ll bet that the national chain has a marketing department with people in it who scan message boards for threads just like these. So corporate could be made aware that they have an issue with someone in the area, and won’t be surprised when thye get a compalint letter. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go play Dominos. Dominos, dominos, I love to play dominos. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-guy-wtf/330539.md?page=3)