# 'Pizza Pie' Is NOT Redundant!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 6, 2016, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177 "2016-09-06T10:07:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177/81 "2017-07-19T16:48:42Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> No. A television set is a set of televisions. Meaning you need at least two televisions so that you have a set of them.
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> Every single television is a television no matter what form it comes in.

Negative. A set can contain 0 to infinite elements.

A television set of zero televisions is still a television set.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177/82 "2017-07-19T16:54:26Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> A television set is also different from a television. A television set is standalone furniture. But that may just be because the style of TVs changed.

Do you have a cite for the claim that “a television set is different from a television”? I was under the impression that “television set” (or “set” for short, as in [“Do not adjust your set”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Adjust_Your_Set)) was synonymous with “television” (the device, as opposed to television the medium).

[Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/set) gives the 22nd definition of the noun “set” as “an apparatus of electronic components assembled so as to function as a unit a television _set_.”

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177/83 "2017-07-19T17:16:00Z")

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I prefer my pizza as a cobbler.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177/84 "2017-07-19T21:19:56Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But a personal favorite is a favorite unique to you and not a widespread or collective favorite.

Nah. No one takes a poll to make sure it’s no one else’s favorite before saying “personal favorite”. “My favorite” would suffice to distinguish it from “My Mom’s favorite” or “a favorite of nerds everywhere”.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza-pie-is-not-redundant/765177/85 "2017-07-19T22:03:48Z")

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My opinion: “pizza pie” definitely is redundant, but it’s so commonly used that pointing out the redundancy is pointless, even dickish.

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