# Pizza!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 10, 2000, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796 "2000-08-10T04:14:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/41 "2000-08-11T21:12:23Z")

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I worked at Pizza Hut for a while, and I tried nearly every combination they had at the time. (Except anchovies. I just couldn’t…) I was on a jalapeno pizza kick for a while, and if I went in in the mornings, I’d make one with bacon. Pizza Hut’s Barbecue topping was my favorite until they discontinued it.

Nowadays, I hate Pizza Hut, and pretty much any other commercial delivery pizza place. We have one nearby called Capozzi’s that we order takeout from every Sunday. My preference is pepperoni, with mushroom thrown in every now and then. Sometimes just plain cheese.

And - The entire time I worked at Pizza Hut, I thought Canadian Bacon was bacon. It’s ham. No one ever complained.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/42 "2000-08-11T21:57:54Z")

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CarlHollywood wrote:

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> Oh yes and a whole wheat crust.

Where can you go to get pizza on whole wheat crust nowadays? The only pizza restaurant chain I knew of that did whole wheat crust was Earth, Wind, and Flour in the West L.A. area – and now I live in the south San Francisco bay area.

Oh, and I do not consider that granola-inspired crap they serve at Fresh Choice to be pizza. It is hippie health food with the word “pizza” spray-painted on it.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/43 "2000-08-11T22:00:00Z")

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Jean Grey (presumably of _X-Men_ fame) wrote:

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> And - The entire time I worked at Pizza Hut, I thought Canadian Bacon was bacon. It’s ham. No one ever complained.

Actually, Canadian bacon is not quite ham, either. It’s what’s known as “back bacon” to the Bob and Doug MacKenzies of the world, because it comes from the back part of the pig.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/44 "2000-08-11T22:11:05Z")

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Well, I’ve only had Chicago pizza once, and it was delicious… Think pie, but with pizza toppings (fillings). If we’re restricting ourselves to what most of the country calls pizza, though, I’ll go with olive oil, mixture of Mozzerella, feta, provolone, and Parmesan cheeses, garlic, oregano, ham, bacon, onions, olives, tomatoes and spinach. Yum! Also popular around here are Ranch Chicken, variations on barbeque, and variations on the “Fra Diablo” mentioned by Ura-Maru.

Oh, and by the way, I don’t even drink, and even I know that it’s beer with pizza, not wine! Wine is for spaghetti or other pasta dishes.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2000, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/45 "2000-08-11T22:50:19Z")

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tracer – regarding whole wheat crust.

The place I mentioned a couple of posts above, Willow Street Wood-Fired Pizza in Willow Glen has whole wheat pizza crusts. They hand-toss their pizza dough, everything is extremely well-made and fresh, and they bake their thin, crisp pizzas in a big stone oak-fired oven. They have all the combinations that would freak out all the non-Californians posting here, plus more traditional toppings. I give 'em two big thumbs up.

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**Author:** ![MysterEcks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MysterEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysterEcks)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2000, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/46 "2000-08-13T19:00:52Z")

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Extra cheese–gotta have extra cheese. Extra sauce, to lubricate the extra cheese. Pepperoni, sausage, hamburger, and bacon. Thick crust. The epitiome of pizza.

Yeah, eventually it’ll kill me, but I’m gonna die _happy._

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/47 "2000-08-14T12:01:47Z")

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Pepperoni. Or pepperoni and meatball.

Although for a change, BBQ chicken pizza is good. Or a Thai chicken pizza. I had a piroshki pizza in Nanaimo (B.C.) once. It was pretty good.

I like garlic, and the crust should be slightly sweet.

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**Author:** ![katey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@katey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katey)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/48 "2000-08-14T14:33:32Z")

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Tracer - California Pizza Kitchen also does whole wheat crust. My sister loves it with their Thai Chicken.

My all-time favorite pizza is buffalo chicken pizza. This tiny little joint near my old job makes it. Hot sauce instead of regular sauce, chicken, and lots of cheese. If you really want to have a heart attack, you could get blue cheese dressing on the side to spread on top. It’s one step short of heaven.

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/49 "2000-08-14T15:43:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tracer \*  
> **Jean Grey (presumably of _X-Men_ fame) wrote:**

Yeah, I’m a Doper on my days off at the mansion.

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> \*\*Actually, Canadian bacon is not quite ham, either. It’s what’s known as “back bacon” to the Bob and Doug MacKenzies of the world, because it comes from the back part of the pig. \*\*

Thanks, I’d always wondered what the difference is (they taste the same to me). But the thing is, bacon on a pizza looks and tastes completely different from Canadian bacon. And I never got one complaint.

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**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/50 "2000-08-14T22:57:47Z")

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> My all-time favorite pizza is buffalo chicken pizza. This tiny little joint near my old job makes it. Hot sauce instead of regular sauce, chicken, and lots of cheese. If you really want to have a heart attack, you could get blue cheese dressing on the side to spread on top. It’s one step short of heaven.

_**HERETIC!!!  
INFIDEL!!!  
A CURSE ON YOU AND YOUR SO-CALLED PIZZA!!!**_

::ahem::

If you want pizza, order a pizza. If you want Buffalo-style chicken wings, order Buffalo-style chicken wings. But assuming that since you like them both, they will work well together is like assuming that since hippos and giraffes are both nice animals, we can mate them and have a brand new animal that will be twice as nice as the original parents.

What you are left with is neither pizza nor wings.  
In short, this dastardly concept is _ **HERESY!!!** _  
(This has been a public service announcement from the Committee for Purity in Munchables. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.)

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**Author:** ![katey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@katey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katey)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2000, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/51 "2000-08-14T23:44:14Z")

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> HERETIC!!!  
> INFIDEL!!!  
> A CURSE ON YOU AND YOUR SO-CALLED PIZZA!!!

DAVE - I’m flattered. Does this mean I’m going to junk food Hell? Maybe some nice fundie foodie can save my sorry soul. 😃  
I still stand by my choice - all greasy junk food goes well together.

Guess I shouldn’t tell you about the BLT pizza I saw listed on a menu that featured iceberg lettuce tossed with mayo?

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/52 "2000-08-15T00:16:39Z")

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Mayonayse pizza? I am shocked and appalled. Mayonayse by itself is amongst the very vileist substances known to man or hoofed mammal, but placing it on the wonder that is pizza goes beyond bad taste, and well into the relm of crimes against nature.

Anyone who’d put mayonayse on a pizza is a demented degenerate of previously unknown proportions. Perhaps aping human behavior on the outside, but within they contain neither soul nor the warmth of life, but instead nothing but some type of diseased potato bug and tubeworm feces.

There you have it. Mayonayse Pizza. There’s no God. Not a single god . . .

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“We can’t do nothing without a sword. That’s why they call us kenshi.”

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**Author:** ![katey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@katey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katey)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/53 "2000-08-15T01:09:31Z")

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Someone told me it (BLT pizza) was very good but even I couldn’t cross that line.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/54 "2000-08-15T01:29:50Z")

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When I lived in Amherst, Mass, we used to stand in line to get slices from this place on the main drag. Can’t remember the name, but the slices were great. My personal fave was shrimp with garlic and dill. Yum.

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/55 "2000-08-15T02:39:03Z")

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Someone else from Amherst? Such a thing is not possible. Were you a native or a student?

To be fair, that was the only place that I found that could make the assorted gastric terrors described here not only edible, but actually palateable.

I’m thinking Chicago Pizza, maybe? Or was that the pathietic pizza place that opened up next-door specifically to catch the overflow on friday nights . . .

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“How about chicken-headed inefectual bachelor?”

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/56 "2000-08-15T02:59:57Z")

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that place was (is) called antonios. one of the best slice places ever. (sniff, gulp, sob) i live in san francisco now. you can get it all here, except for edible pizza. i (a professional cook, 20 years plus) love and revere pizza above all other foods. just thinkin about pizzeria regina in bostons north end, or the european (extra large, with everything, wonderful shredded salami burned almost black on the top) makes me wanna cry. and dont even mention pepes white clam pizza to me, unless youve got extra tissues. new haven pizza is the best pizza on earth, better than the north end, better than new york. i will not pass judgment on those of you who enjoy whole wheat crust, or thai chicken (can this be?), or other heretical stuff on yer pie. i can only hope that one day you see the light. bless you, my children. go with sauce. (and extra oil, actually a menu item at regina!!)

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**Author:** ![Kryptonite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kryptonite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kryptonite)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/57 "2000-08-15T07:05:27Z")

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two of the best;

thinly sliced tomatoes with minced garlic and black olives with cheese but no sauce…

a regular slice loaded with mushrooms onions and some red pepper… damn why is it 3am, not a pizza shop open for another 4 hours!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/58 "2000-08-15T11:52:34Z")

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> Anyone who’d put mayonayse on a pizza is a demented degenerate of previously unknown proportions.

My mom used to take me to Straw Hat Pizza when I was a kid in San Diego. We’d usually get it with “everything”. I’d add mayonaise. I liked it.

I tried some mayo on a pepperoni pizza last week. Just wasn’t the same. Either you need to have all of the veggies too, or it only works with Straw Hat pizza.

I’ve been known to put potato crisps on sandwiches, too.

Pizza gimmicks (these were in San Diego): Straw Hat had a projector with which they’d show Woody Woodpecker and Chilly Willy cartoons, plus old shorts from the 30s. Organ Power Pizza had a huge pipe-organ and an organist that would play it. They also had animated mounted animal heads on the wall that would talk and crack wise. I started reading Poe when I was about eight, so I had a bit of a morbid (Gothic?) streak. I’d always ask the organist to play {i]Toccata and Fugue in D Minor\*. The pizza was good.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2000, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pizza/28796/59 "2000-08-15T12:30:44Z")

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Depends on one’s mood, but I’ll say: Thick, with thin (but very tasty) sauce, and tons cheese. The kind of cheese that slides off at the least prompting and burns the roof of your mouth. It’s a huge pain in the ass, and it’s really messy, but it tastes fan-fucking-tastic.

For those in NYC, V&T’s on 114th and Amsterdam, right by Columbia. They don’t do slices, I’m afraid, but it’s worth the sit-down. I took a course at Columbia one summer, and all my notes and books were covered in greasy fingerprints and tomato sauce stains. And I gained like ten pounds . . . it was so worth it.

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