# Planet of the Apes; female gorillas or orangutans? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634 "2008-05-09T00:23:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/1 "2008-05-09T00:23:52Z")
Did any of the **Planet of the Apes** films or TV series ever show a female gorilla or orangutan? I remember several female chimpanzees (Zira, Lisa, etc), but no other apes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/2 "2008-05-09T00:26:09Z")
Didn’t Marky Mark go running through an Orangutan’s bedroom when his wife was swinging from a chandelier? I seem to remember she was an Orang, too. ---
**Author:** ![StinkyBurrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@StinkyBurrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StinkyBurrito)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/3 "2008-05-09T01:00:02Z")
Oddly, I’m watching it on AMC right now. I’ll report back if I notice any. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/4 "2008-05-09T02:11:17Z")
Would we realize they were suppose to be female? I think there was a cartoon too. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/5 "2008-05-09T02:15:50Z")
Not that the Tim Burton film counts as a real POTA film (it would be an OK movie if it had been named Simian World), but AFAIR, No, not even in that one. Good question! ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/6 "2008-05-09T02:50:18Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] Not that the Tim Burton film counts as a real POTA film (it would be an OK movie if it had been named Simian World), but AFAIR, No, not even in that one. Good question! [/QUOTE] I’m still pissed that Marky Mark never even took his shirt off. :mad: I too was watching the original on AMC and noticed at least one other female chimp; in the natural history museum Taylor runs into a mother and child. ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/7 "2008-05-09T02:52:12Z")
Looks to me like female orangutans have [boobs](http://www.virginmedia.com/images/rf-4.jpg) . Since _Planet of the Apes_ has dcoumentary-like accuracy, I’d say no, there are no female orangutans in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planet-of-the-apes-female-gorillas-or-orangutans/448634/8 "2008-05-09T10:41:28Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] Did any of the **Planet of the Apes** films or TV series ever show a female gorilla or orangutan? I remember several female chimpanzees (Zira, Lisa, etc), but no other apes. [/QUOTE] I don’t know from the remake, but weren’t the chimpanzees the only apes with anything like a progressive outlook in the original movies? If so, it makes sense that they would be the only group whose females had any sanction for putting themselves forward and accomplishing things on the outside. The orangs, as rule-mongering patriarch-scribes, and the gorillas with their aspirations to Bluto-hood, seem more like the sort who’d expect their she-apes to stay home peeling fruit and minding little Pongo and Peanuts. I _do_ have vague but distinct memories of one episode of the TV show which involved a gorilla family, including Mama, who lived on a farm..