# Planned Parenthood defunded in NH! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 12, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706 "2011-07-12T02:34:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/21 "2011-07-12T05:14:52Z")
They tried to do the same thing here in Indiana and did take away all of the funding for awhile, but as of right now it got overturned, but I don’t think the final word has been set. They need to declare it unconstitutional and tell all the states to fucking drop it… I’m tired as hell of worrying about it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/22 "2011-07-12T05:16:23Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > If you’re too broke to buy a pack of rubbers, maybe it’s time to settle for a quick BJ while you’re heading out the door to get an F’n job You offering? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/23 "2011-07-12T05:29:09Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > If you’re too broke to buy a pack of rubbers, maybe it’s time to settle for a quick BJ while you’re heading out the door to get an F’n job > [@elucidator](#): > > You offering? A BJ or a job? 'Cause right now, it’s be a tough call for me. Also, screw off-- this is a shitty economy. Six months and all I can find is a sub-minimum wage job where my boss tries to short me on hours and bounces checks. God only knows how someone with a family to support can do it. ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/24 "2011-07-12T05:56:26Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Are you guys sure? It seemed to be a serious statement. Tho I would prefer it was a whoosh… He’s quoting [Senator Jon Kyl](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/jon-kyl-is-sorry-if-he-ga_n_846941.html). ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/25 "2011-07-12T08:17:18Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I got pregnant while using condoms AND contraceptive foam. But yeah, many people who are anti-abortion and anti-birth control DO seem to think that babies are God’s way of punishing women who want to have sex. I got pregnant after a tubal ligation … 10 years after. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/26 "2011-07-12T09:13:48Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > I got pregnant after a tubal ligation … 10 years after. :smack: Luxury! I got pregnant, and I’m not even a woman! What? We’re not doing the Four Yorkshiremen sketch? Oops. My bad… The point of PP is to help people who, either because they’re too poor or too uneducated, “plan” when they become “parents” (the clue is in the name) by providing not just contraception (and, in a small minority of case, abortions) but advice and education. I know there are people who think that educating people about sex consists of handing them a porn tape and a tube of lube and reminding them to yell “Yeehah!” at climax but they actually do good and important work. But I suppose you all knew that already. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/27 "2011-07-12T09:42:09Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > I _think_ he means that people should pay for their birth control. That makes a lot more sense and is less callous. Which makes more sense and is less callous when the organization that provides a sliding scale for contraceptives, as well as other important health care isn’t completely hamstrung. If the state wanted to make sure that Planned Parenthood received no state funding, then that’s one thing – this kind of thing will likely to be overturned by the courts in most of the ways the states are doing it, but you know, if it’s that important to keep money out of Planned Parenthood’s hands, that’s a way to go. But to make it impossible for them to even write prescriptions for people to take elsewhere, or dispense medications, that’s when it goes beyond “no state money for an abortion provider” into a completely dick move that says that they don’t give a flying fuck about the health and wellbeing of the women of the state. They’re just power tripping because they can, and everyone who isn’t living with state-provided health insurance can get fucked. Or rather, don’t, because now the one source of contraceptives accessible to all people, regardless of income, is gone. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/28 "2011-07-12T14:30:00Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > whoosh > [@dropzone](#): > > It was not intended to be a factual statement. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Are you guys sure? It seemed to be a serious statement. Tho I would prefer it was a whoosh… [They’re sure…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=604375) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/29 "2011-07-12T14:48:07Z")
Man, I love the way this new Republican Party prioritizes fiscal sanity and stays out of social issues. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/30 "2011-07-12T15:14:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Man, I love the way this new Republican Party prioritizes fiscal sanity and stays out of social issues. And jobs! They’re really front-loading the job creation, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/31 "2011-07-12T15:37:39Z")
Just imagine how many new jobs for day care workers this will create! ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/32 "2011-07-12T15:41:36Z")
> [@flickster](#): > > If you’re too broke to buy a pack of rubbers, maybe it’s time to settle for a quick BJ while you’re heading out the door to get an F’n job Alternatively, if your blood pressure goes up at the idea of someone, somewhere, getting a free condom, you probably need to get laid. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/33 "2011-07-12T16:20:08Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I think Councilor Wieczorek’s wife/partner and all the other partner’s of the men involved in this decision should cut them off. What, and defy [the commandments of the Apostle Paul](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205:22-24&version=NIV)? > [@](#): > > **Ephesians 5:22-24** > Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Not bloody likely. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/34 "2011-07-12T16:36:44Z")
Have whackjob conservatives really gained that much of an upper hand in the northern states? Of course, I was also surprised at the amount of bigotry I saw in Maine during their last election, so maybe I’m just out of the political loop. In other PP news, their office in Raleigh was vandalized last night. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/35 "2011-07-12T16:36:45Z")
Did they also cut off public funding for hospitals which perform abortions? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/36 "2011-07-12T16:48:38Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Have whackjob conservatives really gained that much of an upper hand in the northern states? I don’t know about its state politics but NH is one of the reddest northeastern states in the national elections. If their state politics are typically Republican as well, social wackjobs could have easily slid under the radar and have gotten elected by people who vote Republican no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/37 "2011-07-12T16:53:10Z")
Not knowing anything about New Hampshire politics, does this body have the authority to “overturn” legislative appropriations? [Their website](http://www.nh.gov/council/overview.html) is a bit vague in the same sense that Jon Kyl was a bit wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/38 "2011-07-12T16:54:59Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So the will of the people and of their elected official is ultimately less important than the personal beliefs of one man. There’s something wrong with this flow chart. To be fair, this governing body is empowered with the ability to overrule the legislative body on certain matters. If it were to just rubber stamp what the Legislature wants, it would serve no functional purpose. I guess which leads the question: what is their functional purpose? Maybe this is what you were getting at in your post, but, seriously, by what power does an entity that’s not head of another branch of government have at overruling the vote of the legislature? How is that even possible? ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/39 "2011-07-12T17:22:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Did they also cut off public funding for hospitals which perform abortions? No. It doesn’t affect money given to anyone but Planned Parenthood specifically. Anyone else who was providing contraceptives or abortions is apparently still doing a fine job. Mostly because they’ve just been told that PP is in league with the devil and that’s good enough for them. Off topic, but while that passage gets used by plenty of fundamentalistic mysogynists, **Fear Itself** , Ephesians 5 isn’t really like that. The rest of the chapter contains the commands for the husband making it far more equal. It’s just that the assholes stop reading at verse 24. > [@Ephesians 5:25](#): > > **25** Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. **28** In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. **33** However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706/40 "2011-07-12T17:39:50Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > A BJ or a job? 'Cause right now, it’s be a tough call for me. Also, screw off-- this is a shitty economy. Six months and all I can find is a sub-minimum wage job where my boss tries to short me on hours and bounces checks. God only knows how someone with a family to support can do it. By getting a ‘real’ job of course! As I understand it tax accountants’ assistants are like gods among pobes. > [@Marley23](#): > > Man, I love the way this new Republican Party prioritizes fiscal sanity and stays out of social issues. Jobs, man! That’s what Boner said he was going to focus on! And we’ve got them in this thread! A short ways in and we’re already talking about the blow-kind. -Joe [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-defunded-in-nh/588706.md?page=3)